Demoniac nature

As I have understood my nature form birth, and as it seems Im unable to change my natural condition, I want to ask you about demoniac nature and the species living in that type of nature so I can know where Im going my next life. :evil:

From the gita Krishna sais this is hell. May you answer me What Type of Species there is, living in demoniac nature, what bodies do they have, are they existing in this material world or lower planets and will one, if cursed by God, live there for EVER?

:twisted:

It seems to me that you are trying to construct some imaginary fortress in your mind to find solace in.

Your time would be better spent in facing the facts of life. Stop trying to build upon a fantisy. Life has more to offer than self delusion.

So you dont believe in the teachings of Krishna?

I am a demon according to the scriptures. This is a self realization I have had. I just want to know who my friends will be and how my home will be in my next life. Thats all.

Is a pig demoniac? What animals are demons? And where do they live?

Please answer me. Thanks.

[Radian]

WHAT WE DO IN THE PRESENT WILL AFFECT OUR FUTURE BIRTHS
AS MAHATMA GANDHI SAY QUOTE "The future depends on what we do in the present-Mahatma Gandhi.

Polka,

Hey, I wanna dance when I hear your name.

Just forget the scriptures. They only serve to carry you deeper into the pit of thought. Then you get stuck with labels and judgements.

Don't be at all concerned with future lives. After all, you don't even know if you will have one. The only one that matters is what you are now and your awareness of that. Stick with that and you will receive answers for yourself. Otherwise you are simply solloging along with books and gurus who only serve to confuse all issues.

[DavyBoy]

student,

I feel like smacking your ear when I read your rubbish, thats me out for good. davyboy.

dave,
think on these things---thus sayeth the lord.

Best not to even read the name of Mayavadi lest the poison begin to influence.

[honeyflowerservant]

i do wish i hadn't read this.. :roll:

[Nicholas]

What is wrong with you people?

Just forget the scriptures. They only serve to carry you deeper into the pit of thought. Then you get stuck with labels and judgements.

Don't be at all concerned with future lives. After all, you don't even know if you will have one. The only one that matters is what you are now and your awareness of that. Stick with that and you will receive answers for yourself. Otherwise you are simply solloging along with books and gurus who only serve to confuse all issues.

I don't like to criticize but how could you write such junk? If you do not attain Godhead in this life you will live again. This is nature. To become liberated from this material world takes many, many lives. One must be fully God conscious to do so.
Secondly you won't receive answers from yourself...Sure some truths are in our innate nature and will surface as we walk the path of Krishna Consciousness. Certain knowledge however, can only come from the Guru or from scriptures. One can't be liberated without the guidance of a Spiritual Master. This is God's rule.
To aswer the original question...Nothing is cursed by God. In fact there exists no such thing as evil. There is only lesser good. This is explained to be demoniac to clear things up and make it understandable. We assume the body we deserve based on our Karma. If you have bad Karma you need to pay the price... You don't get anything from nothing...And God most certainly shouldn't be feared. He should be woshipped and awed and we should meditate on Him as much we can. If you assume a Pig's body, as you said, you will have to remain as that untill your Karma debt is paid off. Once your spirit has been conditioned again from your experience, then you may take the body of a more conscious being. In human form we get the oppurtunity to think of God. To meditate on Him. To love Him. This is our goal, for when full God consciousness is attained one can return to Godhead to enjoy WITH God.
If you did not know, we are here because we wanted to enjoy seperately from Him. We are not damned. We simply got what we wanted in our ignorance. The universe is 100% fair and although it may not always seem so, it is only because we are unable to look at it from a better vantage point. We are trapped in material consciousness and this is why we are unhappy. Our true nature is spiritual and we are not at home.
Another thing...This isn't hell... We are on the stage where we can attempt leberation. We are very fortunate. Many souls are in 'hell' though temporarily so. Go read about Yama in your Gita. He is assigned to serve punishment to demoniac souls.

Student you should know better than to write such rubbish

Bliss be with you

[DavyBoy]

Hare krishna Nicholas,

your masters student is barred from the fourm, from his past comments he angered me and proberly everyone else, just to add i agree with everything you said in your last post

regards david

[madhu]

Polka,

Hey, I wanna dance when I hear your name.

Just forget the scriptures. They only serve to carry you deeper into the pit of thought. Then you get stuck with labels and judgements.

Don't be at all concerned with future lives. After all, you don't even know if you will have one. The only one that matters is what you are now and your awareness of that. Stick with that and you will receive answers for yourself. Otherwise you are simply solloging along with books and gurus who only serve to confuse all issues.

wow this guy thinks he's guru,telling us all wot 2 do and think,he seems like hipocracy personified,but why ban him?, he makes me laugh and reminds me how lucky i am to know devotees,but if he's reading this..hey mate... ur mind is ur guru. and darwin also,AND ur the one who is sliding deeper into the pit of thought (ur mind,dummy),but thanks 4 ur judgements,they're hilairious!
ps.. who taught you how 2 think..?(i use the term loosely)
Jai Sri SRi Guru & Gauranga !!!

fighting fighting.. how come people who are god conciouss tend to fight against the atheists? If your belief is good you shouldnt fight. I live in nOrway and I agree a bit with students point of view. For example, there is some fruits here that grow even though the climate is really cold and hard to live in. This fruit conbtaints a lot of antioxidants, most of any, and by eating it you stop the aging proccess, it doesnt make you young but can KEEP you young. A krishnaconc iouss beeng would say HEY so? I have more lifes in the future while speptic like student would eat the fruit and hope for the best.. sometimes religion makes one blind.

Anyway..

I want to find out who or what nations are divine and what are demoniac. Here in Norway for example the goverment keeps and saves their money and they keep wanting more money, srila i remember said in one book that almost whole of the world is demoniac at this age but I believe that for example people who are born in the islands where there is enough food and therefore no need to work all day are divine by nature. People born in for example norway are demoniac because they need to work more to survive.


Demoniac nature is fascinating, can alcohol like beer be categorized in passion? food that is too sour krishna sais is in passion..

[sridatta1]

As I have understood my nature form birth, and as it seems Im unable to change my natural condition, I want to ask you about demoniac nature and the species living in that type of nature so I can know where Im going my next life. :evil:

From the gita Krishna sais this is hell. May you answer me What Type of Species there is, living in demoniac nature, what bodies do they have, are they existing in this material world or lower planets and will one, if cursed by God, live there for EVER?

:twisted:

Devotion of Demons

Justice (Pravrutti) and devotion to God (Nivrutti) are the two subsequent steps. The poorvamimamsa (justice) of Jaimini and the Uttaramimamsa (devotion) of Vyasa are the two subsequent parts of the same spiritual path. Dharma or justice is the atmosphere into which the God descends down. You must serve the devotees first and please the God. This will create an atmosphere for the God to visit you one day or other. A selfish demon does not create this atmosphere and wants to sacrifice anything for God suddenly. He likes a jump to the second step suddenly. The reason for this is that he is selfish and wants to get maximum benefit from the Lord by such sudden excessive devotion. Such devotion may be excessive but not true. It is like the sudden excessive love of a prostitute. Ravana insulted Nandi, who is a devotee of Lord Shiva. But he sacrificed himself by cutting his head for the sake of Lord Shiva. He has no devotion for the devotees of Shiva. But he has spontaneous and infinite devotion for Shiva. His devotion for Shiva is also not true. His devotion for Shiva was only to get boons. The parents of Shiriyala were real devotees of Shiva who were not aspiring for any boon from Shiva.

They were worshipping the devotee of Shiva as Shiva. Shiva came in the form of a devotee and asked for the sacrifice of their son. They killed their son and offered to the devotee of Shiva. When Shiva appeared, they did not ask for any boon. Therefore for Nivrutti, the Pravrutti stands as a back ground. Meera was worshipping the devotees of Krishna and finally Krishna came to her. Shiva did not come in the form of a devotee to Ravana to test his devotion because Shiva knows that the devotion of Ravana was only for boons. For such artificial intensive devotion of Ravana, boons were given, but Ravana was destroyed soon. The devotion of those parents was tested and permanent salvation was given to them. Ravana neglected the devotee of Shiva because the devotee is not useful in any way except sharing the divine experiences which are not required for Ravana. The divine experience is desired only when true love exists on Lord. Ravana liked Lord Shiva because of the utility. Therefore people with the mind of utility like to jump directly in to Nivrutti because the selfishness is hidden in them at least in their subconscious state.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
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