I am influenced by Kripaluji Maharaj

Hi !

I have listened to Jagadguru Kripalu Ji Maharaj, and could understand the deep dedication he has for lord Krishna, he talks about Krishna Krishna and Krishna. The way he presents Krishna in his talks can make anyone love start loving krishna.

To know about him see here..
http://jkp.org/jagadguru_kripaluji/index.html

I have never met him personally yet, have you ?

I have never met him personally yet, have you ?

It would/is always great to meet dear devotees,

I would love to know who Maharaja is following, Sampradaya?

I hope you progress in devotional life and is going well.

Your servant, Govind./

Have you visited the link I mentioned in my first post ??

Have you visited the link I mentioned in my first post ??

Yes. I read a little, I just was thinking what his Guru is called.

Haribol.

[premi1]

Dear seeker,

Its really very nice to note that you are influenced by Kriapaluji Maharaj. I had a chance to meet him after my mentor told me about him. He is my sweet Guru. In his presence one can feel the love of Radha and Krishna. He is always doing Kripa(Grace) and one needs a open heart to recieve it.

Please write more about him and also I will post some words of Maharajji. His closest friend H D Prakashanandji Saraswati is always tellingus to remember him.

Have wonderful devotions.

Great to know that you also love him.

Unfortunately I have never, ever, met him in person. Do you know of the place from where I can download the discourses of Kripalu Ji Maharaj ?

Listening to him makes me more closer to Krishna. In this life full of chaos, if anyone listens to him, he is definitely going to experience the peace inside.

[premi1]

Sir/Madam,

It is very nice to hear from Kripaluji Maharajs devotees. How did you hear about him? Have you visited the Barsanadham.org website. His intimate disciple Swami Prakashanandji Saraswati has started Barsanadham in Austin, Texas.

Please guard your devotion like one would guard a lamp. A much as your longing so much he will love. I visited him in India and have visited Barsanadham.

Any amount of longing for him is purely due to his Divine Grace. His association can be compared to a man on a ladder only on climbing up can you know whats there.

The sweetness of his association like how he often quotes for one in Divine love is " like a dumb person when asked to express in words how he enjoyed a sweet candy". It is for those who experience it.

Your blessed soul has longed for him, may you continue great devotions.

in his thoughts,

premi1

Yes. I read a little, I just was thinking what his Guru is called.

Haribol.

A Brief Life History of Jagadguru Kripaluji Maharaj

A Divine breeze permeated the entire brahmand on the Sharat Poornima
night of October, 1922, when Jagadguru Shree Kripaluji Maharaj
appeared in Mangarh village (near Allahabad, India) in a most
respectable brahman family. From the very first day he delighted the
hearts of everyone around him with his sweet smile and serene look.

Sharat Poornima is the famous full moon night of October when Shree
Raseshwari Radha Rani revealed the true Vrindaban Bliss about 5,000
years ago that enticed the heart of God Shiv.

Kripaluji Maharaj is lovingly called Maharajji by his devotees. Since
childhood his extraordinary virtues were noticed by the people. (As a
custom of the family, his elderly people got him married at an early
age.) When he was around fourteen years of age he went to Indore to
study Sanskrit literature, and, to the amazement of the teachers of
that institution, whatever topic he chose to study, he mastered all of
them within two years.

Jagadguruji's mission was to re-initiate teachings of Lord Chaitanya
Mahaprabhu and his disciples

"Shree Maharajji now decided to introduce the true Braj ras to the
souls of this world as Radha Rani and Shree Krishn gave about 5,000
years ago and Shree Chaitanya Mahaprabhuji showered the same nectar of
Krishn love about 500 years ago. Being always absorbed in the ecstatic
states of Radha Bhao, it was hard to communicate with the people. So,
for the good of the souls, he subsided his Bhao state to some extent
and decided to reveal the leela Bliss of Radha Krishn to the people in
general through regular satsang which mainly contained the chanting
(sankirtan) of the names, virtues and the leelas of Radha Krishn. He
started his satsang in the houses of the devotees in Mathura, and then
in Agra and Allahabad, and so on."

[krishnakripa]

Dear devotees,

I have heard numerous times pravachans by the sannyasi preachers of Kriplau Maharaj and though I am a long-time follower of ISKCON, I must admit I was very impressed by their deep scriptural knowledge, sweet singing of bhajans and systematic preaching style.

However a couple of doubts do arise in my heart as I contemplate the life of Kripalu Maharaj as I read his official biography online. Krishna mentiones numerous times in the Gita the absolute need for a guru and an established sampradaya. I dont seem able to read anywhere that Kriplau Maharaj had a guru and some have told me that he is a nitya-siddha and so doesnt require a guru, something that doesnt particularly sit comfortable with me. Anyone knows more on this?

He appears to have been a contemporary of Srila Prabhupad, the founder of ISKCON at least in the 60s and 70s when Prabhupad was physically present. Anyone has heard what are Kripaluji Maharaj's opinions on Prabhupad, ISKCON and in general its root Gaudiya Vaisnava sampradaya?

Thanks
Hare Krsna!

[premi1]

Radhey Radhey,

Kripaluji Maharaj, is always in bhav. These bhav symtoms are mentioned by Chaitanya Mahaprabhu as tears, horripilations, choking, goosebumps etc. In his association , one can realise that he has come to do Kripa(Grace) and Kripa only he does.

His lectures are inspiring. Yes, we cannot understand GOD or Mahapurushas but thats because we are in Maya. Maya is his deputy with her "trigunas" namely Sattvic(goodness), Rajas(Passion) and Tamsic(ignorance). Maya has two qualities Sriji says
1 it makes us forget our relation with GOD and
2 the other being it makes us get indulged in the world

Maya is his energy hence very strong and powerful. He explains that it can be compared to handcuffs on a prisoner, only the person who locked it can open it but the handcuffs are not discared it put on someone else. We can ask with tears in our eyes to our beloved Bhagavan , he advises

a) I am so fallen but you are DHEENABANDHU(lifter of fallen ones) please lift me. I am fallen but you are the lifter so please lift me.
b) I am so sinful that I don't even want to admit that I am sinful indeed You are PATITPAVAN(redeemer of sinful souls). I am sinful but only you can redeem me.

Maharajji's words are so wonderful and it is only his Kripa to even speak or contemplate on his words.

Jiva, Maya and Bhagavan are eternal and have been there eternally. we have seen him in several janmas(births) Sriji says. It is only due to our ignorance we have not realised him. It is hard to understand a Mahapurusha because they report to the Spiritual government. Many have been married and done several deeds that would contradict our mayic governing law. He says that their deeds are governed by YOGAMAYA the same energy which he uses to create the world and to do his leelas.

He quotes the example of Hanuman and Arjuna who have killed several people but had RAM and SHYAM in their minds. Their deeds were not sinful because their minds were consumed by him. We cannot comprehend their states or actions. It will be very contradictory to our material world.

The Mahapurusha's deeds are like that, very hard to understand by our mayic minds. The often quoted analogy of Sriji is a snake curls and bends and moves around but when it goes in to it snake hole it becomes very straight and enters in. The Mahapurusha may seem to do the bodily deeds of the world but he is goverend by spiritual government, he says.

will continue

[mohit mehta]

Hii everybody
This is mohit mehta from India. u would be very glad to know that i have seen Jagadguru Shri Kripalu Ji Maharaj several times personally.He has such a Divine Personality that cannot be defined in words.Once you saw Him you would definitely forget everything. In order to know more about Shri Maharaj ji please visit His site " www.jkp.org" and you would find yourself in Divine World.

[dr.jaya]

Namaste all. I was invited to this forum by my best friend, Premi. :D

[mohan]

GURUR KRIPALUR MAM SHARNAM, VANDE HUM SAD GURU SHARNAM..
RADHE RADHE.
WELL I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY FOLLOWERS OF SHREE KRIPALUJI MAHARAJ R THERE IN THEI GROUP. I AM HIS FOLLOWER AND A SATSANGI FROM MY BIRTH. I COULD ASSURE EVERY ONE THAT HIS SANI

SO RADHE RADHE.



Dear seeker,

Its really very nice to note that you are influenced by Kriapaluji Maharaj. I had a chance to meet him after my mentor told me about him. He is my sweet Guru. In his presence one can feel the love of Radha and Krishna. He is always doing Kripa(Grace) and one needs a open heart to recieve it.

Please write more about him and also I will post some words of Maharajji. His closest friend H D Prakashanandji Saraswati is always tellingus to remember him.

Have wonderful devotions.

[mohan]

GURUR KRIPALUR MAM SHARNAM, VANDE HUM SAD GURU SHARNAM..
RADHE RADHE.
WELL I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY FOLLOWERS OF SHREE KRIPALUJI MAHARAJ R THERE IN THEI GROUP. I AM HIS FOLLOWER AND A SATSANGI FROM MY BIRTH. I COULD ASSURE EVERY ONE THAT HIS SANIDHYA GIVES ETERNAL INTERNAL RLIEF AND THE TIME U R WITH HIM, HELPS U IN MANYWAYS. HIS LOVE AND KNOLEDGE LETS U TO BE A BHAKT OF SHREEKRISHNA AND WITH HIP, IN SADHNA SATSANG, U COULD JUST CLEAN UR MIND WITH ALL BAD THOUGHTS. I CAN ESSURE THAT WHEN U R WITH HIM, U DONT EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT ANY THING ELSE IN THIS UNIVERSE. EVERY ONE IN THIS THREAD SHOULD VISIT TO HIM ONCE.

SO RADHE RADHE.



Dear seeker,

Its really very nice to note that you are influenced by Kriapaluji Maharaj. I had a chance to meet him after my mentor told me about him. He is my sweet Guru. In his presence one can feel the love of Radha and Krishna. He is always doing Kripa(Grace) and one needs a open heart to recieve it.

Please write more about him and also I will post some words of Maharajji. His closest friend H D Prakashanandji Saraswati is always tellingus to remember him.

Have wonderful devotions.

[dr.jaya]

na dIkSAsyAH zikSA zravaNa paThane vA gurumukhAt |
tathApIyaM rAdhA trijagad abalA vismaya bhuvAm ||
kalAmbodheH zaurer api parama santoSaNa kRtAM |
kalAnAm AcArya vraja mRgadRzAm apy ajani sA ||

Though Sri Radhika never took formal initiation,
nor did She receive training through reading or
by verbal devotional instructions for practice,
still She gives the highest bliss to Krishna,
the blissful Ocean of all Divine arts.
This slender Girl Who astonishes the ladies
of the three worlds, is even the Preceptress of
amorous arts to the doe-eyed maidens of Vraja.

[mohit mehta]

Radhe Radhe to all.

I m a devotee of His Excellency
jagadguru Shree Kripalu Mahaprabhu. Searching for a friend who is Shree Maharaj ji's Devotee and is Indian.
Please Reply.

Hare Krishna

Can anyone tell me, from where can I get Audio and Video recordings of Sri Kripalu Ji Maharaj's discourses

[Pankaja dasa]

Chaitanya Bhagavata
Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura-


Although the sinful, hellish, Mayavadi brahma-rakshasa of Radha-desa introduced himself as Gopala to everyone, the devotees , rather than calling him Gopala, called him a false logician Mayavadi jackal. (“Those who cultivate material knowledge take birth as jackals in their next lives.”)

Within a hundred years after the disappearance of Mahaprabhu some foolish atheists rejected their gurus and advertised themselves as incarnations of the Supreme Lord.

















Pankaja-Please refer to where it says the devotees. No Devotee will accept your statement.




--
http://www.krsnaconsciousness.org/Gauranga/Zip/Chaitanya-Bhagavata-nvf.zip
Vraja-press The purports of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura illuminate the text, reveal the essence of pure devotional service, and reject that which is not in strict accordance with the line of Rupa Gosvami.



..and translation of Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakura's chapter summaries and purports. [They were Originally in Bengali] Done by Disicples of Srila Prabhupada!

[mohit mehta]

Radhey Radhey friends

This is Mohit Mehta from India. Gud day to all. I m a devotee of His Excellency Jagadguru Shree Kripalu Ji Maharaj and i want some of the recent poses of Shree Maharaj ji. Would u be kind enough to sent me some of the poses of Shree Maharaj ji.
U know that Shree Maharaj ji inagurated the Bhakti Mandir- one of His Dream Project- recently in Mangarh Dham- His birth Place.
waiting for the reply
Mohit

[Pankaja dasa]

Dear Mohit Mehta

Your Gurudeva says you always need a Guru.

How come he don't have a Guru himself?

Even Krsna accepted Guru and Gauranga.

Which Parampara does your Guru belong/?

Or has your Gurudeva rejected his Guru? As do the Mayavadis after they become 'God'.

[Pankaja dasa]

Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu predicted


Sruti: (alphabetic order)
Atharva Veda, third khanda, Brahma-vibhaga

ito 'ham krta-sannyaso 'vatarisyami sa-guno nirvedo
niskamo bhu-girbanas
tira-stho 'lakanandayah kalau catuh-sahasrabdhopari
panca-sahasrabhyantare gaura-varno dirghangah
sarva-laksana-yukta
isvara-prarthito nija-rasasvado bhakta-rupo
misrakhyo vidita-yogah syam

Translation
"Towards the end of the period between four-thousand to five thousand years in Kali-yuga, I will descend on the earth as Gauranga, a golden-complexioned saintly brahmana in a place by the Ganges' shore and later become the crest-jewel of all sannyasis, exhibiting all My transcendental qualities including supreme renunciation and complete detachment from material desires. In the form of Lord Gauranga, I will display all the thirty-two bodily symptoms of a great personality with my arms extending to my knees. I will become my own devotee, very advanced in bhakti-yoga and teach the worship of Lord Krsna (Myself) by the chanting of My own holy names and relishing the mellows of My own devotional service. At that time only My most confidential devotees will be able to understand Me."

==========================

Kripaluji Maharaja's hands are not extending to his knees. I saw in a picture so I can confirm it. His Parents should have the names 'Jagannatha Misra and Saci-devi'. According to Bhagavatam there is a certain amount of Avatara's. The Next is Kalki Avatara. And it is stated that Krishna always accepts a Guru-Parampara or Guru [Spiritual master]. And He also displays many pastimes which attract this Entire Creation. So far as I can see Kripaluji has attracted a few followers with his mystic powers [yes I know he has them] and gained some appreciation. That doesn't make somebody an Incarnation. It makes them a 'mytic yogi' This is Kali-yuga so we can expect it to happen I guess. Just look at Sai baba he attracts followers through his mystic powers.

The devotees also have this power but they don't misuse it, they always say they are servants of God. And they always take shelter of Guru and Krishna. There is the unique difference between the two personalities. One is cheap the other is not.

So I Beg followers of Kripaluji to see sence and stop saying he is something that he is not. Please don't say foolish things like 'Maybe he is God', you can confirm yourself whether he is or not with one simple 'sight'. It says a Great Personality has arms which extend down to his knees. [Krishna, Rama etc]. So check and see. This is Form which even a material person can see. That is why it says in scripture so people can check. Otherwise why even mention it in scripture? If we cannot check ourseleves. Simply bogus.

[varadaraja sharma]

Radhe Krishna,

Pankaja dasji, Radhe Krishna -u posted some serious allegations in they contribute -in the thread about kripalu maharaj. U may repost it here so that his devotees can answer that.

I am neither a devotee of Kripaluji nor of ISKCON.

I am interested in krishna Bhakthi. Discussions on krishna bhakthi.

still exchange of hate messages takes priority over krishna talk.

some of what I have written in the other thread, I hope I should reproduce here.

A scriptural quote :

"Acharyeshvapi sarveshu taratamyam vina kalau
Shudham Bhagavatham Dharmam Jagraha"

this means in the times of kali, dont see the differences in philosophies of great acharyas which have many differences but see the common thread in all philosophies viz., the Bhagavatha Dharmam, in spite of these differences in philosophies.

the person who wrote about Kripalu maharaj, I love krishna said that he was Jagatguru and lord krishna himself.

For that matter even Shankaracharya did not call himself Jagatguru. A good lot of great souls called him Jagatguru. For shri. I love krishna shri kripalu maharaj may be jagatguru. for me he is one among many gurus who preach krishna bhakthi.
then he said he is lord krishna. that is his samskaram.

Scriptures say

Gurur Brahma gurur vishnu gurur devo maheshwaraha
guru sakshath param brahma tasmay shri gurave namaha

A perfect shishya sees the holy trinity in his guru. It is from this angle i view what is said by ilovekrishna. For that matter out of scriptural guidance every shishya view his guru as lord himself.

coming to ur verdict that he is not guru at all.

i am sorry to say this pankaj.

i do not find any basis on this. this is only bias.

honestly u tell me have u gone through even a piece of couplets penned by shri krpalu maharaj. Shri ilovekrishna have listed a good lot of works penned by maharaj. I have not gone through even a single one of them to be honest. with the same honesty i admit that having not even knowing what a person has said, it is only out of bias or prejudic or heresay u come to an opinion that kripalu maharaj is not guru.

if u dont agree with what is written in his works, study them dispute them.

with out making any basis for ur comment, if u simply comment, i am sorry it is simply a political statement.

Now the question about whether every person should have guru?

Purandara Dasa said:

"Gurubina gulama aguvadenaja dorakuvadilla bhakthi"

With out Guru one can not attain bhakthi

Shankaracharya said :

"Sareeram sorupam tatava kalatram
..........manaschenna lagnam gurorangri padme tataha kim ....

Even if a person has healthy body, beautiful look and a good wife et all - what use of all these if he does not have a guru.

Yes for any personn to progress in the path of bhakthi, he needs guru.

Then the question arise whether all the great sants of india who guided and became guru had themselves guru as such.

I give below a few exceptions:

Nivruthi, Gnanadev, sopana, Mukthabai

three brothers and one sister. Bhakthas of vittalnath in pandarpur. by names they indicate the steps to mukthi.

The three brothers were believed to be avatar of the trinity brahma, vishnu and mahesh. In the Brahmana Agrahara after the demise of their parents, the brahmins were not even ready to give them the sacred thread ceremony. But they were exalted souls. Gnanadev was mocked by the brahmins of pandarpur when he said I see Paanduranga in all - they asked whether u see paanduranga in the buffaloe in ur front - he said yes - then they asked then whether the panduranga could recite vedas - he said - yes. The brahmin asked the janthu to recite vedas. if did not respond. Gnanadev said paanduranga please recite the vedas - it started reciting it.

Gnanadev told them if u see buffaloe in this it would be so and behave so. I see vittalnath in all and he reacted so. For this santh vittalnath was the guru.

Sant kabir wanted to take initiation from Raamananda. The ashramites mocked at him being a muslim and did not even allow him inside the ashram. sorrowfully on the steps of gangaghats of benaras without taking food kabir wept and slept. That day night Shriram came in the dream of Raamananda and told him that one of his bhakthas was not allowed to enter the ashram and he was humiliated. Contemplating on this Raamananda went to ganga ghats to do pratha anushtana. while stepping down the steps he felt like his foot touching a human body and he yelled "Jai sitaram". Enough, kabir woke up and started dancing saying maharaj I got my diksha and went away.

Rather than seeing the history of a guider who provides u something, it is very important for everybody to carefully see as to what is being provided. Even if a person hails from established guru parampara but preaches something against the scriptures, there is no fun in following him. he will fall by his own weight. Even if a person does not hail from a established parampara, if he preaches something which are as per the scriptures there is nothing in following the instructions.

because bhagawan himself has said:

"Shruthi smruthir mamaivagya"

The serious allegations made by Pankaja dasa about kripaluji may only be answered by his sishyas.

But But for the sake of god, I request one all with folded hands, rather than showing sampradaya bhakthi or parampara bhakthi could we all raise above to krishna bhakthi.

Radhe krishna

[shri_guruve_namah]

Radhe Radhe,

Well I do not know why I have come in this forum, I have already done namaparadh by reading insults against My Beloved Guru.

O My Guru is already watching me when I am writing this.. i can feel the pain in my veins..but maybe its like Kusang influences you more, same way this forum attracted me since it had topic of My Guru & then I am here getting involved in the talks which has nothing to do with Krishn Bhakti.

All I can say ,its so dangerous to indulge in an insult to a Guru ( The Krishn Kripa attainer)..infact We have learned from our Guru, not to even think bad about a person who is even pretending to be a Krishn Bhakt or pretend to even be a Devotee since we cannot know his status on the ladder of devotion and as Vardraj Ji said very rightly.....Krishna do not tolerate insult to his Bhakts.
Even Mahaprabhu Ji did not forgive Roop Goswami for even thinking against Pudereek VidyaNidhi.

And here people are so brave to discuss Guru's??? and then claim to be intrested in Krishna.
Infact I have been to other topics, people all around are so confused.asking each other questions....whose answer they should seek from their Guru's.........and then ingenuine people popping up and writing things which makes this forum a total scene of lousy Kusang.

About defending allegations to my Guru ..after taking shelter to His lotus feets for more than twelve years, all i can say that if you spit on the sky.it comes to your ownself........even Budha did not get influenced by the insulting words.......so whatever maybe... My Guru personality will remain same, a total incarnation of Kirshna divine love...Other than being a fifth orginal JagatGuru.....( Check out .. what is meant by JagatGuru) HE also had one of the padvi as BhaktiYogRasavatar. but that's fo scholars and for the introduction purpose......real great thing will only be felt by the one
who come near ( by heart) to this RasSindhu and tastes the nector of Sweet Braj Ras through His Sankirtans , Pad Vyakhya's & Unparalleled speechs ..a Sashak gets totally drenched with Krishna bhakti and is so much involved in the Krishna Naam , Gun, Leela & Dham ..which our Guru radiates through every pore of His being..............................For people's information...total Krishn Bhakti to us is as clear as pure water..no question in the world of spritiualism is left untouched by Shri Maharaj Ji and His philosphy is not out of His pocket...its all through the books of Sanatan Dharm.........whose total essence is to do Krishna bhakti...... and also He is such a dedicated Master that every of His Sadhak knows the tatvakGyan ( Theoritical knowledge of Krishn bhakti) on his tips.........we just have to do it....the Sadhana... to become practical on devotion and HE makes us do that too....Yes by the way ..i wanted to tell you all about my Guru showing magical powers....ha..ha.....yes yes HE has it...since a sinnner like me goes back in the eveing and do Naam Sankirtan ( With Radha Krishna Roop Dhyan ...remember that's the Soul of the devotion or any kind of sankirtan) in the room ..............is it not magic...........and then there are tears coming out in the craving of Lord Krishna.....when all along my life i did not do anything other than thinkng bad about others ..I was not even a seeker of krishna bhakti.....this is surely a magic..........well you can ask every sadhak ( the practical ones) of our's they will tell you magics simiar to these.....yes I have seen a very common magic which my Guru does . I saw...........when in a very cold winter days ( may be 2 or 3 deg) .my Maharaj Ji came with Asht Maha Satvik Bhav, HIS whole being was dreanced with Sweat. and He started dancing on HIS one tip toes , tears drenched His face too..and He started singing Hari Bol.....Hari Bol.. with a dance & screams which makes your heart cry out for Krishna too., He fainted many times..........I was new....and there i felt it's a magic............So check it out what other magical powers My Guru Has...
O yes.about my Guru being a God...........and not having a long hands till the Knees..................well i wonder what kind of hands Jagannath Swami at Puri has..and whether people in this forum consider Him as GOD... so again please do not judge a Krishna Bhakt Divine self by His physcial form....there is not an ounce of difference between Krishna bhakts & Krishna Himself........................and for Krishn sake.stop discussing my Guru negatvily .....since i warn any of you who come to do this .....will be in loss of any kind of Krishn Bhakti for the ages to come.
I am sure people who are having Guru's knows what it is......but please ban the person's who come and insult each other.
If they do not want to come to Shri Kripalu Ji Maharaj then do not come.but kindly keep your filthy minds to yourself.
One last thing..about My Guru not having a Guru............people are so much obssessed with sampraday system that they cannot digest that any Mahapurush can come from Golak directly......when My Guru has already attained Krishna Bhakti...why will HE do a Guru again..and ofcourse HE is not going to tell you that in His previous birth I had a Guru?...just to satisfy your mind.......or to create an example....Krishna Bhakts are free to do as they wish.these do & don't do not apply on them. So if Krishna kripa seeker's do not wish to accept Him as Nitya Siddh Mahapurush.. its their own loss..since then they are not taking benefit of a Guru which is situated at highest level of Braj ras..i.e Gopi Prem ..Yes HE is Kripalu..so whatever people say.at any stage If the person surrender's to HIM with longigness of Krishna Bhaki...My Guru always embraces with open arms and graces to the levels which all of us feel is just infinite to describe.
......anyway note that Guru can only be the one who has already attained Bhagvat Darshan either in present body..or in previous births..no Sadhak can be designated as Guru even if he is at the last step of BhagvatPrapti.

And to my Guru Brothers and sister..I request not to indulge much in this forum unltill it has some rules & regulations about the kind of talk.
And above all we have our Guru with us to talk about & listen about Krishna... do not use this forum to show your infinite knowledge since it only will make you a false & superficial Sadhak..the real essence of Bhakti is in practicing it and not talking about it.
About telling to people about our Maharaj Ji divinity...........He is like a Sun who Shines on the people of not only pure heart but also on the fallen soul ( But not on who are covered with clouds of ahankar for not surrendering to a Mahapurush who is present on earth but will sing Hare Ram Hare Krishna when that Mahapurush leaves for His Abode) .remember His attributes as DeenBandhu....and will reach by Himself or through His Pracharak's to the real seeker's of Guru or Krishna Prem.


Radhe Radhe.

[Pankaja dasa]

O yes.about my Guru being a God...........and not having a long hands till the Knees..................well i wonder what kind of hands Jagannath Swami at Puri has..and whether people in this forum consider Him as GOD.

What? Krishna and Jagannatha are same. What is your point? Either Kripaluji has hands down to his knees or not. ! Your totally brain washed.

How do you expect people to take him seriously when he has no Guru Parampara? And he lives in Texas?! Not in Mayapura? He must have some strange powers. Still because he has no Guru he thinks himself as God.

NB: What is the name of your Guru's, Guru please. What line does his Guru belong. If he doesn't have a Guru, then sorry but he is totally bogus.

[varadaraja sharma]

Radhe Krishna,

Vidya dadathi vinayam vinayath yathi patratam

Geeta is not simply to be recited. it should be implemented.

A person learning ABCD is not qualified enough to question a person who have mastered the language.

Radhe krishna

[mohit mehta]

Hello Mr. Pankaj Desai...

this is ur answer to the mail in which u wrote sumthing very nonsense about JAgadguru Shree Kripalu ji MAharaj.

Well, i dont think that u have any fault in this. it is either because u were talking in a complete bias manner or u havenot meet Shree MAharaj ji personaaly..

Now, if u r. bias.. i dont know why... either u r not ready to accept the truth about Him or u r in the influence of some other guru.. if this is the case, i m sorry bout u and feel pity...

Nd if it is not the case, then i request u to please atleast once visit His asharms and meet Shree MAharaj ji personally.. only then u wld be able to feel the Divine Bliss of Shree Maharaj ji. It is not sumthing that can b explained via emails or words or some debates... It is sumthing that can only be felt and until or unless u go and visit, u wnt be able to grab that.

Look dear, v all r human beings.. n v dont have the limit to judge whether the person is, in reality, a TRUE GURU. Even if Lord Krishna comes now, we wnt be able to judge and if we wld, then we wont accept dat and it is our human tendency...

So i personaaly request u to please rethink about all this.. Hoping for the +ve answer. take care

mohit

I truly agree with you, personalities like "Kripalu Ji" can never be described in words, they can only be understood and experienced with an open heart

[mohit mehta]

Radhey Radhey to all

Z there anybody who is the disciple of Jagadguru Shree Kripalu Ji Maharaj.... Or who has visited his Asharms... or who listens their Lectures on TV...

If yes, i would like to make that personality my friend...

If anybody is interested please do mail me at

2006.Mohit@gmail.com.

I shall be very thankful... Waiting for the answer...

[kaberi]

Hello,

I am Kaberi and I feel Maharaj ji is a great teacher and a real Guru.Love as Krishna says can take individual souls closest to Him.Kripaluji is only teaching how to love Krishna.I do not find any other reason to approach a Guru.Love is the only means and one who teaches you to Love Krishna is the best guru, a real Guru.

Don't we know that Mirabai was not accepted by any Sampraday but she is the one whom Krishna accepted in His being?Sampraday might lead you nowhere but love for Krishna will take you to Him certainly.

[Pankaja dasa]

What is an incarnation of Gauranga?

-Incarnation- Jiva-tattva, empowered servant of God. (i.e Narada Muni). (spiritual master). Living entity (not God).

Kripaluji claims or his followers claim he is an incarnation of God. Or is Gauranga (incarnation).

Gauranga is not an incarnation, He is avatari (Same as Krishna). Vishnu-tattva.

Kripaluji Maharaja is therefore Jiva-tattva, and is not God. Jiva-tattva can never become God.
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If somebody would say Kripaluji is Vishnu-tattva (complete avatara of God). This would mean God Himself has come here (with full opulences). And His form and pastimes would be taking place. (only in His dhama i.e Navadwipa or Vraja dhama).

[Ketan Das]

Radhe Radhe to all.

I m a devotee of His Excellency
jagadguru Shree Kripalu Mahaprabhu. Searching for a friend who is Shree Maharaj ji's Devotee and is Indian.
Please Reply.

Radhe Radhe,
Even i am Maharajji's devotee how did you come to know aboutt mahaprabhuji?

[Ketan Das]

Hare Krishna

Can anyone tell me, from where can I get Audio and Video recordings of Sri Kripalu Ji Maharaj's discourses

Radhe Radhe dear devotee,
Shree Maharjji's Audio and Video Discourses can be ordered online at http://shop.jkp.org/ or you can even get it at any of our ashrams in india and abroad,please visit this link to locate our ashrams.
http://www.jkp.org/jkp_ashrams/index.html
Jai Shree Radhe

[kaberi]

I am too a devotee of Jagadguru Kripaluji Maharaj.
The divine love he permeats through his speech , vision, behaviour really can make a stone hearted soul a lover of Radha Krishna. At least any lover of Krishna should see him once and take his grace.
He is a Mahabhagavat in our human vision. Devotees are there who feel the divinity of Radha Krishn in him.

[ajitpanda]

Boliey ladali lal ki jay!!!
Its great to read all those stuffs abt our beloved maharaji......jagadguru shree kripalu ji maharaj.....
and wat to say i have no proper words for him.....


Shyam milade.....

[kaberi]

Last weekend we were at Shyama Shyam dham in Bhubaneshwar.We spent the best moment of our life there.Anyone who attends the Satsang of Braj Chakori didi(a pracharika of Maharaj ji),I can bet no one would enjoy or like any other place.I wonder what blessings the divine sould enjoy who have seen or heard Maharaj ji at least once.
The bhajans can make you cry genuinely for God.Maharaj ji is not and can not be a human being.

[Pankaja dasa]

Maharaj ji is not and can not be a human being.


Maharaja ? Does your Maharaja have a Guru? I read some of the things he says in his books, most of it is totally MAYAVADA.

(makes sense since he has no Guru, Mayavadis normally don't have a Guru).[/quote]

Yes, I suppose his guru is "Lord Krishna" himself. Who has given him immense knowledge and has blessed him in many ways !. Without experiencing him, it is really hard to understand the kind of devotion he has and the kind of service he is actually doing.

Does that mean if a guru who has a human guru is not "MAYAVADI" ?, does that having a guru makes you pure and devoted ?, if yes, then please have a look at the history.

[Pankaja dasa]

Yes, I suppose his guru is "Lord Krishna" himself. Who has given him immense knowledge and has blessed him in many ways !. Without experiencing him, it is really hard to understand the kind of devotion he has and the kind of service he is actually doing.

Does that mean if a guru who has a human guru is not "MAYAVADI" ?, does that having a guru makes you pure and devoted ?, if yes, then please have a look at the history.

Krishna had a Guru, what makes Kripaluji so special?

[shri_guruve_namah]

:lol:

I am Happy to see you Pankaj, still pursuing this topic so closely, Ha ..Ha.. , HE is already getting to you,..Even the constant negative thoughts for Shri Krishna gave liberation to many souls and the affect is same in case of Mahapurush's too.
It seems you really care for Krishna & HIS Devotee's and somehow want us to understand that Our Guru needs to have a Guru to become a Guru!!.,and which is actually true for all practical purpose of attaining Shri Krishna
But Panjkaj I sincerely hope that someday you will understand what Mahapurush’s are and there ways. By reading too many things as a theory, you have obviously blocked your mind to the things which are practical and i.e. pure Bhakti. We have told many times that Shri Kripalu Ji Maharaj is a Nityasiddh Mahapurush, like Lalita Vishakha Sakhi's , there love for Krishna was not inspired one but a natural phenomenon.
We need Guru to inspire love for GOD within us since we are attached to Maya, but Nitya sidh Mahapurush's do not need this inspiration because there every beign is already Krishnamay. Ofcourse they may choose to make a Guru just to set an example , however these rules of do's and don't do not apply on them and likewise on Krishna

There are ways defined in Shastra to identify a BhagwatPrapt Mahapurush's . In anycase they cannot be identified by our materialistic wisdom. However since hardly any human can see the divine qualities without experiencing them, GOD has graced us with many practical ways and logical ways to judge them ...like by seeing a smoke you can sense that there is a fire.
By just discussing in this forum and by screaming our heads off that Our Guru is a Rasik saint of Samartharati Gopi class, will not make you understand. You need to do practical devotion , clean you heart from maligning thoughts for not only a devotee but also for real Devil's too, then only the light of Shri Maharaj Ji can shine on you.

We call HIM Shri Krishna Himself due to the saying of Shri Krishna... "AcharyaMaam Vijani ..............na martya budhyasuyate sarvedevmayo Guru" in which Lord says that He Himself is there in the form of a Guru.

I am happy to read that you have gone through some of HIS theories which are Gem of Veda & Bhagwat.
However I advise you that if you are really devoted for Krishna Bhakti then pursue your path and your Guru.
Hope you will really acquire Krishna's Grace

With Well Wishes

Radhe Radhe

[Pankaja dasa]

I cannot name who said this, (they know who they are):

This is what he said Kripaluji teachings are:
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Name withheld: He says one who was Jivva Tatwa in the beginning but after performing bhakti of Krishna or Raam exceed maaya is Mahapurush.

Name withheld:We are jeev tatwa and only when we perform bhakti we become vishnu-tattva....the only truth and nothing but the truth..
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He also told me according to the above Kripaluji Maharaja is Vishnu-tattva.

I rest my case.

Mayavda

[shri_guruve_namah]

Do not want to get into this, since I am an unauthorised person to say anything on deep philosophy of Spiritual science. However I feel the above kind of quotes may give false impression and since this forum is read by many Krishna Lover's, so I say as far as I understood from my Guru:
There are two kind of Mahapurush’s

1) Sadhansiddh Mahapurush,: The one does Sadhana and attains Shri Krishna:
Then that Mayabadh jeev (Jeev tatv) becomes Mayateet (i.e. beyond or exceeds Maya) and he will never come under Maya again. He becomes same as Shri Krishna in terms of eight divine qualities.
But still he remains Jeev tatv and cannot become Mayadheesh or termed as Vishnutatv (i.e. governor of Maya).

2) NityaSidh Mahapurush: The one who in beginningless Bhakt of Shri Krishna.
There are two kind of Niyta siddh Mahapurush, one who are jeevtatv and one who are Vishnutatv (Like Asht MahaSakhi's).
In both cases the tatv remains in its original state.


I feel these states of Mahapurush do not matter for a Sadhak because Guru or Mahapurush is Shri Krishna Himself.
We need to surrender to him same as for Shri Krishna.
The Lord says: The one who claims to be my Bhakt is not the true devotee but the one who is Bhakt of my Bhakt is my true devotee.
In Bhakti we need to become like an innocent child, where one feels like below quotes,
picked from Gauydia discussion thread:

anAdiH sAdir vA paTur atimRdur vA pratipada-
pramIlat-kAruNyaH praguNa-karuNA-hIna iti vA |
mahA-vaikuNThezAdhika iha naro vA vraja-pater
ayaM sUnur goSThe pratijani mamAstAM prabhu-varaH ||

I don’t care if Krishna is beginningless
or was born at some time,
whether he is brilliant (Jagadguru uttama) or
a fool (mayavadi kapaTa sanyasi).
whether he is compassionate at every moment or
whether he is totally devoid of any quality of mercy.
I don’t even care whether he greater than Narayana,
the Lord of Vaikuntha, or
whether he is just an ordinary human being.

I only pray that this Son of the cowherd king
be my chosen Lord here in this land of Vraja,
birth after birth.

[Pankaja dasa]

Mahapurusua is still classed as Jiva-tattva

If someone can make you "Love Krishna", that is the best thing can happen. The purpose remains the same however.

[rakeshsingh2]

Mahapurusua is still classed as Jiva-tattva

Pankaja Prabhu; if you do not mind can you tell your Guru name?