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08-06-04, 01:20 AM
Aryasiddhanta dasa and cronies:

From your first post here to your latest post you have displayed an extreme fanatical hostility which clearly states that your sole purpose for joining this forum is only argue, play games and attempt to demean rtvik followers of Srila Prabhupada. You are not here for association - you are only here to spit your vile venom at those who have chosen to follow Srila Prabhupada's instructions rather than the unauthorized self-appointed and/or voted in iskCON "gurus".

Your attacks on everything and anything written by ritvik devotees and your approval of any pointless empty post written by non-ritviks is just childish foolishness which only shows just how narrow-minded and insincere you really are.

Your consistent and offensive fault finding and put downs are tiresome, tedious, and immature having no spiritual value whatsoever.

Sadly, you evince the holier than thou attitude that is prevalent in immature devotees such as yourself who have recently gone through iskCON's Bhakta BootCamps. You have learned very well how to twist Srila Prabhupada's quotes (the few you know) to fit your morally unfit iskCON misogynist attitude.

If you would read the text that surrounds the out of context quotes you use for this purpose - it might be remotely possible that you would see just how offensive you are being to Srila Prabhupada.

I thank the owner of this forum for deleting the nastiest of your rants which would most certain not only offend many matajis that view these forums but also the mature devotee men who know better.

Well, Aryasiddhanta dasa, I am sure you graduated with honors having learned these lessons well. However, your mind remains your unconquered enemy in that you continue to serve the dictations of anger and greed.

You lust for the position of guru and anyone who threatens your goal (ritviks) become the most hated of enemies.

Let go of your ego and take full shelter of Srila Prabhupada. Read and listen to His perfect instructions with an open heart and you will develope an understanding of His true position within Iskcon.

Doing so will help you to halt this ghastly display of seething all penetrating hatred and fear (yes, fear) of those who do accept Srila Prabhupada as the sole diksa guru for Iskcon.

You are in fact displaying a hatred for Srila Prabhupada by indulging in this intense hatred for the disciples of Srila Prabhupada.

Believe it or not, I will pray for your heart to soften but I choose not to associate with those who do not accept Srila Prabhupada or His position as diksa guru for Iskcon.

You, Aryasiddhanta dasa and your cronies are prime examples of this type of person and I choose not to associate with you or your kind in any form or fashion - be it in person or in cyberspace.

I choose not to read your vile offenses to the lotus feet of Srila Prabhupada. Any type of association with you and those who follow you only leaves the door open for you to continue your disgusting behavior. I do not wish to be a party to that so I bid you farewell (you and your gang of thugs not this forum), Aryasiddhanta dasa and gang with a few final words of advice.

Chant and someday this vile disgusting venom of hate that is boiling within you all will be erradicated enabling you to meet the Paramatma within the heart.

Please read only Srila Prabhupada's undoctored books so you can hear His pure and true instructions. This will enable you to become situated on a solid foundation of Krishna Consciousness instead of balancing on the shaky crumbling ground of today's iskCON.

You can be confident that Srila Prabhupada will never fail you and the sweet security of His Lotus Feet will carry you through and help you to remain happily situated regardless of what may befall iskCON.

Sri Isopanisad; Mantra Six:

yas tu sarvani bhutany
atmany evanupasyati
sarva-bhutesu catmanam
tato na vijugupsate.

Now, does your guru know how you are spending your time?

08-06-04, 01:36 AM
Thanks Rukmini, these people have been unable to answer our basic question for over the past 25 years, why does the GBC say that child molesters are or were -- gurus? And hasn't their idea been a hazard to the children of ISKCON? Well yes.

They cannot answer even one simple question in over 25 years, no kidding, the village drunk knows the answer, no, molesters are not and were not gurus, while the GBC cannot even figure out what is the question? Nor can they answer why they harassed us, and threatened to kill us, and they did kill Sulochana, when we brought this forward and tried to protect the children? They insulted and harassed us all along, to the peril of the children ... they are proud of their handiwork? thanks pd
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madhu
05-01-06, 10:21 PM
........ to kill us, and they did kill Sulochana, when we brought this forward and tried to protect the children? They insulted and harassed us all along, to the peril of the children ... they are proud of their handiwork? thanks pd
:oops:
well he shouldn't have insulted Srila Prabhupada's dear friend and Siksha Guru,should he ? And he shouldn't have misinterpreted Srila Prabhupada's words,which were clear and simple, a case of mad elephant me thinks.. :(
Sridhar Maharaja lived in my house for many years, so naturally we had very intimate talks. He has such high realizations of Krishna that one would faint to hear them. He was always my good advisor, and I took his advice very seriously because from the very beginning I knew that he was a pure devotee of Krishna. So, I wanted to associate with him. Krishna and Prabhupada, Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati, liked him to prepare me. Our relationship is very intimate.

After the breakdown of our spiritual master's institution I wanted to organize another institution making Sridhar Maharaja the head. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur told me that Sridhar Maharaja is one of the finest preachers of Krishna consciousness in the world, so I wanted to take him everywhere. This was my earnest desire. But since he could not go around the world and preach, at least the people of the world should come to hear from him.

For spiritual advancement of life we must go to some-one who is actually practicing spiritual life. So if one is actually serious to take instructions from a siksha guru, or B.R. Sridhar Maharaja. I consider Sridhar Maharaja to be even my siksha guru, so what to speak of the benefit that others can have from his association.
Could it be more clear ?
Although maybe it's better that some are kept at a distance from our loved ones'

honeyflowerservant
06-01-06, 01:39 AM
Prabhupada: Yes. That you have to prove. You can eulogize your Guru
Maharaja, but you have to learn it and face the public and be strong to
defend yourself. That is success. Not by praising your Guru Maharaja. You'll
praise your Guru Maharaja. That is not very difficult. But be victorious to
the opposing elements. Then you will praise your Guru Maharaja nicely. At
home, you can praise your Guru Maharaja, and Guru Maharaja be satisfied,
"Oh, my disciples are praising me." That is not very.... That is good.
Respectful. That is the qualification. But you have to fight. Then your Guru
Maharaja will be glorified.

>>> Ref. VedaBase => Conversation on Roof -- December 26, 1975, Sanand