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tin · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3

I want a definition regarding my question could some one help me.

tin · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3

Why is it good to get married?

vespertine212 · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 42

Who says it's good?

Marriage entangles people into all kind of mundane activities that distract one from spiritual life. Better if you can avoid such a mess! :D

tin · Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 3

No one is giving a real meaning of marriage.
I dont think Its a mess too.

cherry · Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 47 Location: australia

it's good to get married, because you need sex.
probably everyone that has replied saying it isn't good etc would never advance in spiritual life without it.
if you are free from sex desire, then marriage is no good. if you are not free from sex desire, then with marriage, you can regulate it, use it, to advance in spiritual life. i hope you know what i mean.
it is no good trying to chant if you are thinking of sex, it is the strongest desire, it can make the most advanced fall down. if you are married, then you can have sex, but you don't just 'go for it' having it all the time, it is to be regulated. you have it, but you know that the main goal is to chant and advance in spiritual life, the main goal is to become attached to Krsna, and break free from sex desire.

vespertine212 · Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 42

i think cherry's answer is also good.

someone once told me that marriage in Krishna consciousness is like going to a feast on a fast day. if you've taken a vow to fast, then why go to the feast?

mathuranath das · Joined: 25 Mar 2006 Posts: 20

We would all do alot better if we earnestly tried to unfold our hearts in love for krsna through the medium of personal sacrifice, whatever the circumstances of our life, single or married. Marriage is actually a perfect place to "advance" in spiritual life. If by "advancement" we mean to learn how to give more fully of ourselves. Sex is irrelevant. Its not an impediment to the awakening of prema. Sense control is not the goal, but merely a helpful adjunct to the real work of inner transformation. Selfish self absoption is the real impediment. Marriage or anything else for that matter is only "maya" when its built around selfishness. We shouldn't get married so we can have sex with a clean conscience. We should get married so that we can learn how to love others through the experience of self sacrifice that marriage and children demand. My children have taught me more about love and giving than I ever learned from a book. Grhasta ashram is no impediment if its lived as an ashram with the goal of internal growth. You'll never find a better place to grow if you learn how to surrender to it. Most of Mahaprabhu's followers were grhastas(householders). Through family life we see the interconnectedness of all life. Yukta Vairagya is the path given by Mahaprabhu. Utilize everything in Krsna's service. See Krsna in the needs your partner, see krsna in your children when they demand your time and energy, make your home and all the experiences of your life into a living temple of the all-pervading Lord. When you learn to see Krsna's presence in every experience of your life then it won't matter whether you are married or not. We can't escape the reality that we must sacrifice ourselves for Krsna's satisfaction. If we can't even begin to practice this loving self giving with other human beings then we have little chance of sacrificing ourselves to the Lord who is the "Infinite Consumer". Spiritual marriage is a blessing when lived with warmth, humour and an unconditional friendship as we souls move together towards the hearts fulfilment in loving service.

Kaunteya das · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 11:14 am Post subject:

Dear Tin,

To ask a celibate monk or nun why it is good to be married challenges all their beliefs. They have after all made a decision not to be married. However that is their personal decision. They are to be congratulated. Most of us need take the longer and safer road. Marriage.

Whereas I have had 40 years of marriage to the same girl and can tell you from realized knowledge of a devotional marriage. It is sweet and at the same time bitter. But in the end it is all nectar.

The downfall of every civilization has always been due to sexual misconduct and drugs. Go back over history and you will see every civilization, religion, church, family, marriage and yes, Iskcon all came undone due to these two things.

The only institution that saved them are the sincere, true, faithful married couples. They rebuild a new civilization with children born into loving consciousness. My wife and I enjoyed a sweet, faithful and loving marriage. Krsna was always at the centre of our life even when we thought He wasn't.

Also see my other posts for reasons for being married. IF that is where your consciousness is...then get married. I can assure you I have seen many a celibate tripping over just by looking at my wife. This is a long journey to make alone. A beautiful devotional companion is a wonderful way to celebrate your life.

Marriage is a safe haven to get through devotional life. In marriage sex is gradually transformed. Even the celibates are highly sexed. That is where they get their energy and passion from to be celibate. But for the majority it is best to get married and grow old together.

The great thing about Krishna is Radha. The Divine couple. What a beautiful inspiration. What a sweet philosophy. There is none like it.

Then in old age when your beautiful wife or husband is taken away you can fully experience the pain of separation that Radha and Krsna do. Then a beautiful eternal great love is realized. Now all you have is a desire to be with your eternal friend who is playing with Krsna. This is how Krsna tricks you. First He gives you a beautiful companion and then He takes her away. But He leaves you the knowledge and the desire to go Back to His Abode.

In the end the greatest desire you will have is to see your loved ones go Back to Godhead. That is after all why Srila Prabhupada started his magazine.

It all leads to more and more loving bhakti. In the end the sex desire has been transformed and eternal friendships born. You end with a state of no desires whatsoever. Only Krsna Bhakti, only to be in the eternal association of your sweet friends.

The celibates have their path and that is fine. But for the majority taking to this Krishna consciousness, marriage is by far the safer path. That is not just my opinion but that is 40 years of marriage as a devotee speaking.

When Krsna took my wife Back to Godhead last year, I can say, yes, it was all worth it. When we are all there what bliss...what wonderful association. Now whatever austerities I must undergo I dedicate to her and our children. I will have at least brought a few souls back to Krsna.

That is why marriage is good for many, but not all.

Radhe Radhe Krsna Krsna

Kaunteya das

sridatta1 · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 652 Location: india

tin wrote: I want a definition regarding my question could some one help me.

A life without sex is also a sin only!!

Brahma created the first soul i.e. Saraswathi and married her. The other souls are generated from that divine couple. This story is mocked, that the Father married His own daughter. You are telling that all of us are created by God and that He is our divine Father. Then all of us are brothers and sisters only. How the marriage can take place in the creation? Now the mockers should mock at themselves.

The rules are created by us only in course of time, but they are valuable after framing only. There is no concept of sin if you realise that Brahma, Saraswati and all the souls are involved in sexually to help this drama and entertains God by bringing down the souls from upper world and provide them the external gross bodies like dresses for drama. If we realise that the very process of sex is only for this divine purpose and that it is a divine process created by God Himself, there is no point of sin. When the creator is forgotten and when the purpose of our creation and existence for the sake of the entertainment of God is also forgotten, a life without sex is also a sin only.

At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

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Universal Spirituality for World Peace
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digital_dasa · Joined: 21 Oct 2006 Posts: 4 Location: maya nagri

sridatta ur right but god dont have a physical self in the beginning so there could be another ways for lord brahma to give birth to a soul [ goddess saraswati] ur judgeing perfection with ur material senses or material laws , lord brahma is a male god so how come he can give birth [this is a material logic] but if we consider spiritual logic there is no sex in between them as there is no body , in hindi we say it as athma ka milan [soul submerging into one another] sexuality is a physical phenomenon which is a strong force in nature and this desire can be a obstacle in ur spiritual progress, sex is like quicksand -u can go once can't come back , i can give u a better example for this - to act against the gravity space shuttle use rocket launchers to lift it and with the help of this they break the earth magnetic feild and when the r in the space the world there is friction free ,here we r the space shuttle krishna is our rocket launcher and space is a body free world were there is no friction or an obstacle free world or enlightment :D , i m sorry for my weird way of expressing my thoughts , i hope u understand sridatta :D