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shri_guruve_namah · Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 3 Location: INDIA

Radhe Radhe,

Well I do not know why I have come in this forum, I have already done namaparadh by reading insults against My Beloved Guru.

O My Guru is already watching me when I am writing this.. i can feel the pain in my veins..but maybe its like Kusang influences you more, same way this forum attracted me since it had topic of My Guru & then I am here getting involved in the talks which has nothing to do with Krishn Bhakti.

All I can say ,its so dangerous to indulge in an insult to a Guru ( The Krishn Kripa attainer)..infact We have learned from our Guru, not to even think bad about a person who is even pretending to be a Krishn Bhakt or pretend to even be a Devotee since we cannot know his status on the ladder of devotion and as Vardraj Ji said very rightly.....Krishna do not tolerate insult to his Bhakts.
Even Mahaprabhu Ji did not forgive Roop Goswami for even thinking against Pudereek VidyaNidhi.

And here people are so brave to discuss Guru's??? and then claim to be intrested in Krishna.
Infact I have been to other topics, people all around are so confused.asking each other questions....whose answer they should seek from their Guru's.........and then ingenuine people popping up and writing things which makes this forum a total scene of lousy Kusang.

About defending allegations to my Guru ..after taking shelter to His lotus feets for more than twelve years, all i can say that if you spit on the sky.it comes to your ownself........even Budha did not get influenced by the insulting words.......so whatever maybe... My Guru personality will remain same, a total incarnation of Kirshna divine love...Other than being a fifth orginal JagatGuru.....( Check out .. what is meant by JagatGuru) HE also had one of the padvi as BhaktiYogRasavatar. but that's fo scholars and for the introduction purpose......real great thing will only be felt by the one
who come near ( by heart) to this RasSindhu and tastes the nector of Sweet Braj Ras through His Sankirtans , Pad Vyakhya's & Unparalleled speechs ..a Sashak gets totally drenched with Krishna bhakti and is so much involved in the Krishna Naam , Gun, Leela & Dham ..which our Guru radiates through every pore of His being..............................For people's information...total Krishn Bhakti to us is as clear as pure water..no question in the world of spritiualism is left untouched by Shri Maharaj Ji and His philosphy is not out of His pocket...its all through the books of Sanatan Dharm.........whose total essence is to do Krishna bhakti...... and also He is such a dedicated Master that every of His Sadhak knows the tatvakGyan ( Theoritical knowledge of Krishn bhakti) on his tips.........we just have to do it....the Sadhana... to become practical on devotion and HE makes us do that too....Yes by the way ..i wanted to tell you all about my Guru showing magical powers....ha..ha.....yes yes HE has it...since a sinnner like me goes back in the eveing and do Naam Sankirtan ( With Radha Krishna Roop Dhyan ...remember that's the Soul of the devotion or any kind of sankirtan) in the room ..............is it not magic...........and then there are tears coming out in the craving of Lord Krishna.....when all along my life i did not do anything other than thinkng bad about others ..I was not even a seeker of krishna bhakti.....this is surely a magic..........well you can ask every sadhak ( the practical ones) of our's they will tell you magics simiar to these.....yes I have seen a very common magic which my Guru does . I saw...........when in a very cold winter days ( may be 2 or 3 deg) .my Maharaj Ji came with Asht Maha Satvik Bhav, HIS whole being was dreanced with Sweat. and He started dancing on HIS one tip toes , tears drenched His face too..and He started singing Hari Bol.....Hari Bol.. with a dance & screams which makes your heart cry out for Krishna too., He fainted many times..........I was new....and there i felt it's a magic............So check it out what other magical powers My Guru Has...
O yes.about my Guru being a God...........and not having a long hands till the Knees..................well i wonder what kind of hands Jagannath Swami at Puri has..and whether people in this forum consider Him as GOD... so again please do not judge a Krishna Bhakt Divine self by His physcial form....there is not an ounce of difference between Krishna bhakts & Krishna Himself........................and for Krishn sake.stop discussing my Guru negatvily .....since i warn any of you who come to do this .....will be in loss of any kind of Krishn Bhakti for the ages to come.
I am sure people who are having Guru's knows what it is......but please ban the person's who come and insult each other.
If they do not want to come to Shri Kripalu Ji Maharaj then do not come.but kindly keep your filthy minds to yourself.
One last thing..about My Guru not having a Guru............people are so much obssessed with sampraday system that they cannot digest that any Mahapurush can come from Golak directly......when My Guru has already attained Krishna Bhakti...why will HE do a Guru again..and ofcourse HE is not going to tell you that in His previous birth I had a Guru?...just to satisfy your mind.......or to create an example....Krishna Bhakts are free to do as they wish.these do & don't do not apply on them. So if Krishna kripa seeker's do not wish to accept Him as Nitya Siddh Mahapurush.. its their own loss..since then they are not taking benefit of a Guru which is situated at highest level of Braj ras..i.e Gopi Prem ..Yes HE is Kripalu..so whatever people say.at any stage If the person surrender's to HIM with longigness of Krishna Bhaki...My Guru always embraces with open arms and graces to the levels which all of us feel is just infinite to describe.
......anyway note that Guru can only be the one who has already attained Bhagvat Darshan either in present body..or in previous births..no Sadhak can be designated as Guru even if he is at the last step of BhagvatPrapti.

And to my Guru Brothers and sister..I request not to indulge much in this forum unltill it has some rules & regulations about the kind of talk.
And above all we have our Guru with us to talk about & listen about Krishna... do not use this forum to show your infinite knowledge since it only will make you a false & superficial Sadhak..the real essence of Bhakti is in practicing it and not talking about it.
About telling to people about our Maharaj Ji divinity...........He is like a Sun who Shines on the people of not only pure heart but also on the fallen soul ( But not on who are covered with clouds of ahankar for not surrendering to a Mahapurush who is present on earth but will sing Hare Ram Hare Krishna when that Mahapurush leaves for His Abode) .remember His attributes as DeenBandhu....and will reach by Himself or through His Pracharak's to the real seeker's of Guru or Krishna Prem.

Radhe Radhe.

Pankaja dasa · Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 60

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O yes.about my Guru being a God...........and not having a long hands till the Knees..................well i wonder what kind of hands Jagannath Swami at Puri has..and whether people in this forum consider Him as GOD.

What? Krishna and Jagannatha are same. What is your point? Either Kripaluji has hands down to his knees or not. ! Your totally brain washed.

How do you expect people to take him seriously when he has no Guru Parampara? And he lives in Texas?! Not in Mayapura? He must have some strange powers. Still because he has no Guru he thinks himself as God.

NB: What is the name of your Guru's, Guru please. What line does his Guru belong. If he doesn't have a Guru, then sorry but he is totally bogus.

varadaraja sharma · Joined: 31 Mar 2006 Posts: 53

Radhe Krishna,

Vidya dadathi vinayam vinayath yathi patratam

Geeta is not simply to be recited. it should be implemented.

A person learning ABCD is not qualified enough to question a person who have mastered the language.

Radhe krishna

mohit mehta · Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 7 Location: India

Hello Mr. Pankaj Desai...

this is ur answer to the mail in which u wrote sumthing very nonsense about JAgadguru Shree Kripalu ji MAharaj.

Well, i dont think that u have any fault in this. it is either because u were talking in a complete bias manner or u havenot meet Shree MAharaj ji personaaly..

Now, if u r. bias.. i dont know why... either u r not ready to accept the truth about Him or u r in the influence of some other guru.. if this is the case, i m sorry bout u and feel pity...

Nd if it is not the case, then i request u to please atleast once visit His asharms and meet Shree MAharaj ji personally.. only then u wld be able to feel the Divine Bliss of Shree Maharaj ji. It is not sumthing that can b explained via emails or words or some debates... It is sumthing that can only be felt and until or unless u go and visit, u wnt be able to grab that.

Look dear, v all r human beings.. n v dont have the limit to judge whether the person is, in reality, a TRUE GURU. Even if Lord Krishna comes now, we wnt be able to judge and if we wld, then we wont accept dat and it is our human tendency...

So i personaaly request u to please rethink about all this.. Hoping for the +ve answer. take care

mohit mehta · Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 7 Location: India

Radhey Radhey to all

Z there anybody who is the disciple of Jagadguru Shree Kripalu Ji Maharaj.... Or who has visited his Asharms... or who listens their Lectures on TV...

If yes, i would like to make that personality my friend...

If anybody is interested please do mail me at

2006.Mohit@gmail.com.

I shall be very thankful... Waiting for the answer...

kaberi · Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Kolkata

Hello,

I am Kaberi and I feel Maharaj ji is a great teacher and a real Guru.Love as Krishna says can take individual souls closest to Him.Kripaluji is only teaching how to love Krishna.I do not find any other reason to approach a Guru.Love is the only means and one who teaches you to Love Krishna is the best guru, a real Guru.

Don't we know that Mirabai was not accepted by any Sampraday but she is the one whom Krishna accepted in His being?Sampraday might lead you nowhere but love for Krishna will take you to Him certainly.

Pankaja dasa · Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 60

What is an incarnation of Gauranga?

-Incarnation- Jiva-tattva, empowered servant of God. (i.e Narada Muni). (spiritual master). Living entity (not God).

Kripaluji claims or his followers claim he is an incarnation of God. Or is Gauranga (incarnation).

Gauranga is not an incarnation, He is avatari (Same as Krishna). Vishnu-tattva.

Kripaluji Maharaja is therefore Jiva-tattva, and is not God. Jiva-tattva can never become God.
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If somebody would say Kripaluji is Vishnu-tattva (complete avatara of God). This would mean God Himself has come here (with full opulences). And His form and pastimes would be taking place. (only in His dhama i.e Navadwipa or Vraja dhama).

Ketan Das · Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Posts: 2

mohit mehta wrote: Radhe Radhe to all.

I m a devotee of His Excellency
jagadguru Shree Kripalu Mahaprabhu. Searching for a friend who is Shree Maharaj ji's Devotee and is Indian.
Please Reply.

Radhe Radhe,
Even i am Maharajji's devotee how did you come to know aboutt mahaprabhuji?

Ketan Das · Joined: 06 Jun 2006 Posts: 2

ilovekrishna wrote: Hare Krishna

Can anyone tell me, from where can I get Audio and Video recordings of Sri Kripalu Ji Maharaj's discourses

Radhe Radhe dear devotee,
Shree Maharjji's Audio and Video Discourses can be ordered online at http://shop.jkp.org/ or you can even get it at any of our ashrams in india and abroad,please visit this link to locate our ashrams.
http://www.jkp.org/jkp_ashrams/index.html
Jai Shree Radhe

kaberi · Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Kolkata

I am too a devotee of Jagadguru Kripaluji Maharaj.
The divine love he permeats through his speech , vision, behaviour really can make a stone hearted soul a lover of Radha Krishna. At least any lover of Krishna should see him once and take his grace.
He is a Mahabhagavat in our human vision. Devotees are there who feel the divinity of Radha Krishn in him.

ajitpanda · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 2 Location: Hyderabad

Boliey ladali lal ki jay!!!
Its great to read all those stuffs abt our beloved maharaji......jagadguru shree kripalu ji maharaj.....
and wat to say i have no proper words for him.....

Shyam milade.....

kaberi · Joined: 08 May 2006 Posts: 5 Location: Kolkata

Last weekend we were at Shyama Shyam dham in Bhubaneshwar.We spent the best moment of our life there.Anyone who attends the Satsang of Braj Chakori didi(a pracharika of Maharaj ji),I can bet no one would enjoy or like any other place.I wonder what blessings the divine sould enjoy who have seen or heard Maharaj ji at least once.
The bhajans can make you cry genuinely for God.Maharaj ji is not and can not be a human being.

Pankaja dasa · Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 60

Quote: Maharaj ji is not and can not be a human being.

Maharaja ? Does your Maharaja have a Guru? I read some of the things he says in his books, most of it is totally MAYAVADA.

(makes sense since he has no Guru, Mayavadis normally don't have a Guru).[/quote]

Pankaja dasa · Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 60

ilovekrishna wrote: Yes, I suppose his guru is "Lord Krishna" himself. Who has given him immense knowledge and has blessed him in many ways !. Without experiencing him, it is really hard to understand the kind of devotion he has and the kind of service he is actually doing.

Does that mean if a guru who has a human guru is not "MAYAVADI" ?, does that having a guru makes you pure and devoted ?, if yes, then please have a look at the history.

Krishna had a Guru, what makes Kripaluji so special?

shri_guruve_namah · Joined: 13 Apr 2006 Posts: 3 Location: INDIA

:lol:

I am Happy to see you Pankaj, still pursuing this topic so closely, Ha ..Ha.. , HE is already getting to you,..Even the constant negative thoughts for Shri Krishna gave liberation to many souls and the affect is same in case of Mahapurush's too.
It seems you really care for Krishna & HIS Devotee's and somehow want us to understand that Our Guru needs to have a Guru to become a Guru!!.,and which is actually true for all practical purpose of attaining Shri Krishna
But Panjkaj I sincerely hope that someday you will understand what Mahapurush’s are and there ways. By reading too many things as a theory, you have obviously blocked your mind to the things which are practical and i.e. pure Bhakti. We have told many times that Shri Kripalu Ji Maharaj is a Nityasiddh Mahapurush, like Lalita Vishakha Sakhi's , there love for Krishna was not inspired one but a natural phenomenon.
We need Guru to inspire love for GOD within us since we are attached to Maya, but Nitya sidh Mahapurush's do not need this inspiration because there every beign is already Krishnamay. Ofcourse they may choose to make a Guru just to set an example , however these rules of do's and don't do not apply on them and likewise on Krishna

There are ways defined in Shastra to identify a BhagwatPrapt Mahapurush's . In anycase they cannot be identified by our materialistic wisdom. However since hardly any human can see the divine qualities without experiencing them, GOD has graced us with many practical ways and logical ways to judge them ...like by seeing a smoke you can sense that there is a fire.
By just discussing in this forum and by screaming our heads off that Our Guru is a Rasik saint of Samartharati Gopi class, will not make you understand. You need to do practical devotion , clean you heart from maligning thoughts for not only a devotee but also for real Devil's too, then only the light of Shri Maharaj Ji can shine on you.

We call HIM Shri Krishna Himself due to the saying of Shri Krishna... "AcharyaMaam Vijani ..............na martya budhyasuyate sarvedevmayo Guru" in which Lord says that He Himself is there in the form of a Guru.

I am happy to read that you have gone through some of HIS theories which are Gem of Veda & Bhagwat.
However I advise you that if you are really devoted for Krishna Bhakti then pursue your path and your Guru.
Hope you will really acquire Krishna's Grace

With Well Wishes

Radhe Radhe