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Ronaldinho · Joined: 30 Apr 2006 Posts: 2

Hare Krishna,
According to vedic literature the sun travels arround the earth whereas the actual science tells us that it is the other way arroun, the earth travels arround the sun.

If we agree that vedic literature is wrong then it would have no value anymore.

OK, i am waiting for your answers.

Thanks!

Pankaja dasa · Joined: 05 Dec 2005 Posts: 60

I did this on paint. I have no clue whether it's accurate or not. But just imagine that the sun is moving in the motion specified (left hand-side). Then you could say that the Sun was going around the Earth.

I think flipping the solar-system around, like this you can tell that. If it's in accurate please don't blame me. :roll: :lol: [/img]

Nb the suns bigger then the earth so, of cource it's moving around us. I think that commen sence? Hope u find out though. I like this subject. Bhagavatam has it all.

tirthadas · Joined: 15 Feb 2006 Posts: 13 Location: USA

I've had to come to the personal opinion that Vedic scriptures are authoritative in terms of the purely spiritual concerns, i.e. Sanatana-dharma; it is very difficult to make convincingly corresponding conclusions between scripture and scientifically observable fact.

Looking at the big picture: Srila Prabhupada's overriding objection to science was its emphasis on a Godless universe.

sridatta1 · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 652 Location: india

Ronaldinho wrote: Hare Krishna,
According to vedic literature the sun travels arround the earth whereas the actual science tells us that it is the other way arroun, the earth travels arround the sun.

If we agree that vedic literature is wrong then it would have no value anymore.

OK, i am waiting for your answers.

Thanks!

veda as reference

There are several religions and there are several scriptures corresponding to these religions. We must fix a scripture as the primary standard so that other scriptures can be standardized with reference to that. The other scripture also becomes standard with reference to which some other scripture can be also standardized. This is called as the process of standardization in Science.

Such a primary standard can be the Veda. I know immediately the colours of your faces will change. Immediately you will blame Me that I am not the preacher of Universal Religion. You will misunderstand Me as the preacher of Hinduism in guise. This situation will arise even if I take the scripture of some other religion also as the primary standard. The misunderstanding is inevitable and unavoidable.

I have to take one scripture of some religion and I have to be subjected to the criticism. Therefore, I ignore the criticism. I know what I am in My inner consciousness. My inner self is the real witness as long as I am the preacher of Universal Religion to My inner self, I need not fear for any external criticism from any angle.

The reason for selecting Veda as the primary standard is that even today the Veda is being preserved by oral recitation with the help of thousands of families. If you go to older and older times millions of families were reciting Veda just to preserve it from any type of intrusions or deletions. In Indian spiritual field there are several branches of philosophy who fight with each other orally.

For all these branches, Veda is the standard text. Such situation never existed in any religion in this world and does not exist even today. Even today different schools of philosophy in Hinduism fight with each other and all of them quote the same Veda. Such competition was and is unique in Hinduism. In such competitive atmosphere pollution of Veda is impossible.

If any word is added or deleted, immediately the other schools will shout because they fear that in such case Veda may support a particular branch of philosophy due to the possibility of a new interpretation for a new sentence. Leave the past. Tell Me frankly whether such situation exists in any religion in this world even today. This is the main reason why I have selected Veda as the primary standard. The diversity in Hinduism has done lot of good in this direction.

The sanctity of the scripture is well protected. In the olden days the books were in the form of written scripts of palm leaves. Printing was not there. Therefore, a very few scripts were only present. In such case it was very easy to introduce a new palm leaf or to remove an older palm leaf because hardly one or two scripts were present in a very large region.

Except this one reason there is no any other reason for Me to favour Veda but you need not worry that the scriptures of other religions have to be judged with reference to Veda only. Fortunately, all the scriptures of all the religions agree with Veda. The primary standard is useful in very few places where there is disagreement. Even that disagreement arises only from the misinterpretation of the statement. If the correct interpretation is given all the statements are perfectly coinciding with Veda.

Moreover, one can decide the final version of any concept based on the logical analysis. If the logical analysis fails, then mere Veda need not be taken as authority. If the logic disagrees you can reject any scripture including Veda. Therefore, Veda along with the logical analysis only stands as a primary standard. When you are convinced logically about a concept and when such concept is found in Veda, then only the concept is authorised.

Therefore, I am not rubbing Veda on any head without the logical analysis. Therefore, one need not doubt about the fanatic. The primary standard means the original word of God heard directly. But when other scriptures are perfectly in agreement with such word where is the question of fanatic? Every scripture becomes the word of God.

This point supports the Universal Religion, which says that the single God delivered the scriptures of all the religions. When the author is one and the same how can there be difference between the scriptures? If there is any difference it is only by your misinterpretation. Therefore, primary standard is only for convenience but not for fanatic.