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sridatta1



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Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:34 am    Post subject: About Shri Datta Swami  

About Shri Datta Swami

His Holiness Sri Datta Swami (Dr. J Venugopala Krishna Murthy) is a unique combination of a spiritual and scientific genius. He is a scholar par excellence in the scriptures of world religions including Hinduism, Christianity, Islam and Buddhism. He is a retired professor of chemistry in Vijayawada, India. His mission is to reveal divine knowledge that will reconcile all the world religions and also reconcile spirituality with science, in order to establish lasting world peace.

Shri Datta Swami's innate genius was obvious from early childhood. Without any prior learning, He spontaneously started composing hymns and prayers at the age of eight, in the ancient and intricate Sanskrit language. By the age of eleven, He was writing poems, epics, stotrams (paeans) and philosophical books by the hundreds. Sanskrit scholars were dumbfounded seeing the literary prowess and unparalleled philosophical depth of the compositions of Swami at this young age. His prophecies were also a source of awe for people.

At the age of 15, Swami began engaging in scholarly debates with the world's topmost Hindu scholars during His stay in Varanasi, India. Some of His spectacular victories in these debates include those with the traditional scholars of various schools of Hinduism and other religions to bring out Universal Spirituality. One of His greatest achievements is the composition of the Sanskrit philosophical work 'Trimata Samanvaya Bhashyam'. This composition is a synthesis of the three schools of Vedic philosophy namely the Monistic, Qualified Monistic and Dualistic, which have remained unreconciled for many centuries. Swami obtained a Ph.D. in chemistry from the Allahabad University, India, at the age of 19, which is an incredible feat. He published several original research papers in Chemistry in various international journals. At the age of 30, He became a professor in chemistry and has published several original research papers in international journals.

Great scholars and saints have recognized that Swami is not merely a genius but an embodiment of Divinity. Numerous devotees of Swamiji have experienced spectacular miracles in His presence. Two devotees had a simultaneous vision of the Vishwarupa (Cosmic form of the Lord). Swami once appeared in three different towns at the same time and witnesses in all three places assure that Swami had dinner with them and retired in their respective places that night. To many devotees, Swami has appeared in the forms of different deities and forms of God such as Lord Dattatreya, Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva, Venkateshwara, Lalita, etc. He has also appeared to many devotees as some past incarnations of God such as Rama, Krishna, Jesus, Sai Baba, Narasimha Saraswati, Akkalkot Maharaj etc. He has healed many devotees of various serious illnesses and protected devotees' lives and property. Swami says that miracles attract only the lowest level of devotees and that His greatest miracle is 'His brilliant and wonderful divine knowledge'. This knowledge has never been revealed by anybody sofar and is not to be found in any book or religious text. Hence we are interested in propagating this knowledge. Swami says that this is the right knowledge present in the scriptures and is revealed most clearly now.

His closest devotees recognize Him to be the cotemporary incarnation of Lord Dattatreya (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva). His mission of spreading divine knowledge all over the world and establishing world peace is in fact the Lord's Divine Mission. He has written several books to disseminate His knowledge among people. He has also written several hymns to promote devotion. He is now preaching the Divine Knowledge to one and all. Recently He was also awarded an honorary membership of the Argentine Parliament of World Religions.

Several scholars from all over India and abroad have been constantly sending E-Mails in appreciation of the divine discourses given all over India and also to foreign countries through teleconferences. Dr. Nikhil from U.S.A. says, "Swami is the Genius predicted long back by Nostradamus, who says that a scientist and a scholar in all scriptures of the world comes from a country covered by three seas (India) having Thursday as the holy day, will unify all the religions in the world and interpret with science to bring world peace". There was request from a foreign University to formulate all the divine knowledge of Swami as a course for study.

About 'Sri Datta Jnana Prachara Parishat'

Sri Datta Jnana Prachara Parishath was established in the year 2004 for the purpose of propagation of the Divine knowledge preached by Sri Datta Swami (Swami).

The Trust has so far published a book on 'Divine Discourses by Datta Swami at Mumbai'. It brought out one edition of our bi-monthly magazine 'Sri Datta Vani' and Pamphlets in both Telugu and English. Several books written by Swami were already published in Telugu and are in good circulation in Andhra Pradesh.

It is also actively involved in the distribution of cassettes containing beautiful bhajans/ devotional songs composed by Swami and sung by Him along with His devotees (in Telugu and Sanskrit).

Efforts are also being made to translate this Divine knowledge of Sri Datta Swami into the regional languages with a view to make it available to the common man.

Sister Concern of this Trust:
Datta Seva Samiti is primarily established to help poor devotees and beggars in all aspects and converting the beggars into devotees.

Swami chooses only four categories of beggars. These are
i) Children
ii) Disabled
iii) Suffering with diseases i.e., those who are unable to earn.
iv) Very old people
Every day the beggars are given special food items by the Trust.

Divine Knowledge of Shri Datta Swami

In spite of the most impressive scientific developments, we find that the world ails with war, hunger, poverty, corruption, injustice and environmental degradation. Today, world peace is a distant dream. This clearly indicates that spirituality is necessary for world peace. If spirituality should bring world peace, then it is most ironic that within spirituality, there is intense hatred, and communal wars between followers of different religions. If we analyze deeply into the cause of these situations, it is the lack of reconciliation between science and spirituality and a similar lack of reconciliation among different religions in the world. This reconciliation must be knowledge-based; not faith or emotion-based. The Divine Knowledge given by Shri Datta Swami most splendidly reconciles and integrates science and spirituality as well as all religions within spirituality into a universal philosophy called Universal Spirituality. Following are some of the unique features of the Divine Knowledge of Swami:

1. To maintain the impartiality of God, one has to accept that the same God appeared in different places and times to reveal this Divine Knowledge and found different world religions (otherwise, if God gave the true knowledge to a specific region only in the past, several generations passed away before the countries got touch with each other. In that case those generations should have gone to the hell for no fault of theirs', because at least some might have the possibility of liberation through that true knowledge if communicated in time. This is a total partiality of God especially when there is no rebirth for a departed soul. To avoid this partiality you have to accept that God came in all countries simultaneously in different forms and gave the same true knowledge at a time).
2. Thus all the religions have the same Divine Knowledge as their essence. The differences are apparent and extraneous. Swami harmonizes the teachings of all the scriptures including the Vedas, Bible, Koran, etc.
3. Swami explains various concepts of God, Maya, creation, awareness, souls, with unprecedented clarity and systematic scientific analysis. He also correlates them with the goal of spiritual life and the path to achieve it.
4. The path of selfless service revealed by Him is direct, practical and suitable for people from all backgrounds and situations.
5. He has described at length, what constitutes practical service and what does not.
6. He reveals the necessity and the special place of the human incarnation of God in spirituality as the revealer of Divine Knowledge, object of devotion and as the goal of practical selfless service.
7. He explains the correct way to identify the contemporary human incarnation and the possible pitfalls in this identification.
8. He reconciles the three philosophies of monism (Advaita), qualified non-duality (Vishishtha Advaita) and duality (Dvaita) between God and the soul. All these three philosophies are systematically propounded only in Hinduism, but one or more of them are implicitly present in all religions.
9. Even though past incarnations have given Divine Knowledge, Swami's knowledge is by far the most detailed and complete. It is equipped with analysis based on modern science.
10. He upholds modern science as a necessary tool for the analysis of spiritual knowledge.
11. He exposes several misinterpretations and hypocritical practices in the spiritual field and directs them to the true path based on knowledge.
12. He Himself has performed innumerable miracles for the benefit of sincere devotees. He explains both the benefits and limitations of miracles in the spiritual field.
13. His knowledge is presented in an interactive form such as questions and answers with devotees, debates with critics, and short and long discourses.
14. His devotional songs are embodiments of the highest divine knowledge dripping with the sweetest nectar of devotion.

The books written by Shri Datta Swami are the greatest blessing to mankind and the harbinger of a new age of world peace, knowledge and devotion.
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Hare Sridatta

Who is Sri Datta's Guru.
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JK Hauraki wrote: Hare Sridatta

Who is Sri Datta's Guru.

A few new visitors have posed a question to Me “Who are You”? I must mention the answer to this question here because every new reader is obviously attacked by this question. My name is Venu Gopala Krishna Murthy with surname ‘Jannabhatla’. This name belongs only to this outer most gross body, which is composed of the inert five elements.

The inner body is called as the subtle body, and is made of qualities and feelings which are like waves in a pond of water. The water is the pure awareness, which is called as the causal body or soul. If all My qualities and feelings subside as in the case of a realized scholar, the soul becomes like a pond with stand still water. There cannot be waves without water and thus the subtle body cannot exist without the causal body.

The subtle body always includes its causal body, which is made of life energy. This subtle body enters the gross body in the womb of mother and leaves it at the time of death. The subtle body has no name or surname. Therefore, I am only introducing My gross body through My name and surname.

Then, who am I? Am I the subtle body? If I become a realized soul and get full liberation My subtle body disappears and at last I remain as the causal body. Up to this there is no complication, because this is the inner X-ray photograph of any human being. In the ordinary photograph only the outer-most gross body appears. The X-rays of the spiritual knowledge reveal the subtle and causal bodies.

A special situation appeared in My case as one can see from My life history. The experiences of devotees and the unimaginable excellent divine knowledge that is flowing from Me clearly demands the presence of some extra item in Me other than these three bodies. Some call it as sixth sense or intuition, which is a categorical imperative. Some call the same as God, power of God or grace of God. The people who do not want to accept this extra item, which is beyond this world, are called as atheists. From their angle I am a trickish human being cheating humanity through My speeches. But even to them I have posed a question at the beginning of the introduction. Let them answer that question and if they can convince Me, I shall give up this Mission.

God is unimaginable and cannot be directly experienced. He donates Himself to His devotees through a medium and the best medium is the human body for human beings. People other than atheists are believers in God and are called as theists. Among these theists, the first type of people think that the unimaginable God entered and pervaded all over this human body. In this case the electric current that entered a medium of a wire pervades the wire. Such a wire is called as current itself. Fortunately or unfortunately almost all My devotees belong to this first type and call Me as Lord Datta. Swami means Lord and Datta means the Lord donated to human beings through a human body. Thus I am named as ‘Datta Swami’ by My devotees.

This is the state when Jesus said that He and His Father were one and the same. The second type of people treat Me as a devotee of Lord Datta, who like a father visited the house of My gross body and stays in the central room called the heart. Jesus as the Son sitting on the right side of His Father stated this state. Hanuman, a devotee tore his heart and showed the Lord in it. I (subtle body along with causal body) am the owner of this house and it is My fortune that My Father visited My house. The invisible Father does all the miraculous work and gives fame to the visible Me.

Such fortune is possible only in the case of the topmost devotee. The third category devotees never admit the entrance of God into any human being. These people worship formless God like space or cosmic energy. Some people of this category worship the energetic body of God as the Father in Heaven and some of this category worship statues and photos. The worship of all these people belonging to the third category is only indirect representative worship. This third category accepts that some power of the God enters a human being, who brings His message to the earth.

These people call the human incarnation as Messenger only. However these people believe in the messengers who were dead, but they do not believe the living Messenger present in their time. Such people like the priests of the Jewish temple had Lord Jesus crucified and did not accept Him even as a Messenger. For the same reason the Kapalika followers killed Sankara and conservative Hindus killed Swami Dayananda.


Therefore, I have to answer the question “Who are You?” for different people in different ways:

1. Yes, I am the very Lord Datta
2. Lord Datta is in My heart as I am His strongest devotee
3. I have been sent by Lord Datta as His messenger
However I prefer to stand by the third answer because that will not contradict the first two categories and is sharply accepted by the third category. The people standing on 100, 50 and 25 can commonly accept the least number 25. Lord Krishna gave the first answer because He was preaching the Bhagavad Gita only to Arjuna who believed in Him as the Lord. But I am giving My discourses to all the three categories of the people. A Messenger is just a microphone who is near to the speaker (person who speaks).

The nearness is only for the convenience of the speaker and should not be misunderstood as dearness. The speaker is invisible and the visible microphone appears as if it is speaking. Similarly, you think that I am generating this divine knowledge since the speaker in Me is invisible. Similarly, whatever miracle is experienced by the devotee through Me is from that invisible speaker alone. The movement of the visible fan is due to the power of invisible electric current in it. In this angle of Messenger, the final essence is that this divine knowledge is coming from the Lord Himself.

You can study it with utmost care and you can neglect Me since I am only a post man. The microphone covers only a small circle of people around it. But the amplifiers cover large circles and propagate in a big way. Similarly, I have propagated this spiritual knowledge through My speeches in small circles only. I am donating only My words and intelligence in the Mission of the Lord. But, My devotees are far superior to Me since have sacrificed not only the work but also the fruit of their work (money) in propagating this divine knowledge to the entire world.

They call Me as the Greatest. But they are greater than this Greatest. The Lord may be far or near the microphone or might have entered the microphone and spread all over the microphone to become one with it. In any case the microphone and the speaker are different. Electric current and the wire are different. The microphone may be very close to the speaker due to such a requirement. The amplifiers may be far from the speaker due to such a requirement. The nearest microphone does not mean that it is the dearest. Actually the amplifiers situated far from the speaker are doing greater service and become dearest to the speaker.


Thus My devotees are dearer to the Lord than Myself. The closeness of Myself is just for the convenience of the Speaker (the Lord).
I often say to My devotees that I am greater than them by the role that I have taken in this world-drama. But as an actor of that role, I have the least value. In a film an actor may act as the Lord and another actor may act as the devotee. The actor acting as devotee may be paid ten times more than the actor acting as Lord. The value of the actor in the role of the devotee may be far more.


Therefore, I say to My devotees “O fortunate devotees! When all of us go the Lord as His servants, you will be in the front and I will be in the back”. Bible says the same that the first will become last and the last will become first. This situation arises because we stand there as bare actors in front of the Lord since our roles are left on the earth”. The microphone, which is near to the speaker, must imbibe at least a little of the nature of the speaker. The speaker is invisible and is giving all the credit to the microphone. Unfortunately I am visible and cannot hide Myself to give the total credit to My devotees, which they really deserve. At least let Me give equal credit. The microphone and amplifiers are only instruments and there is no difference between instruments.


All of us are only the servants of the Lord. As a cook I have prepared the food. My devotees are catering this with utmost efficiency. They think that I have prepared this food with special taste. They don’t know that I have prepared this food with the help of the cookbook, which is hidden, in My pocket. The whole credit goes to that book as far as the special taste of the food is considered. However the book has nothing to do with catering. Thus all the credit of My work goes to the Lord only. But the credit of My devotees in the catering goes to them only.


I have many devotees who come to Me for their worldly problems, treating Me as an astrologer or a person having some power of God. I treat such devotees as the gravel stones and their number is useless. But I have a few devotees about whom I should express My appreciation here. They are the original gems. They are so few that they can be counted on one’s fingers. If the Lord really exists in Me, I shall certainly give a higher place to My devotees. Lord Krishna created ‘Goloka’, which is the 15th upper most world above His ‘Satyaloka’ so that the dust of the feet of His sacred devotees (Gopikas) shall fall on the head of the Lord.


He indicated this in His lifetime itself by asking for the dust of the feet of Gopikas to be applied on His forehead. It is the expression of the purest love of the highest Lord towards His top-star devotees who proved their devotion through service.

I am addressing the invisible speaker as Swami, who is experienced by the devotees through this human body. Swami represents the invisible current flowing in the visible wire. The miracles and the special knowledge are the electric shock (which is the effect) of that current. But people say, “This wire is giving a shock”. Therefore, the word Swami indicates this aggregate of three bodies (Wire), which is visible only in the external sense but in the internal sense the same word indicates the invisible fourth item, the speaker (current).
When we say that the Lord spreads all over the human-body like current in the wire or dissolved sugar in water, even then, the Lord and the human body exist separately. Here the word human body indicates all the three bodies together.

Therefore, the first part (the human body) should be also very careful about the other part (Lord). When Arjuna asked Lord Krishna to repeat the Gita after the war, Krishna replied that He could not repeat it because at that time the Yogeswara present in Him had told the Gita. The human incarnation is a two-in-one system. Even in the sugar solution the dissolved sugar molecules and water molecules co-exist. In the second angle the Lord and human body are closely associated like a transistor and a tape-recorder in one electronic instrument. In the third angle, the Lord and the human body are far from each other like the sun and a lens. Only the energy of sun enters the lens in this angle In the Gita,. when Krishna told that He was everything, it was the Yogeswara (the Lord) who was speaking. When Krishna told that He could not repeat the Gita, it was the human body, which spoke like that.

The Lord left the human body of Lord Krishna at the end. Arjuna cremated the dead gross body of the Lord. The subtle and causal bodies were not entangled in the cycle of Karma and therefore, both of them merged with the cosmic energy. Rama never spoke as Lord and worshipped the Lord. Buddha kept silent about the Lord and just lived like a saint. Even Sankara told in one of His prayers “O Lord, we both are qualitatively similar but differ quantitatively. The ocean is not in the wave but the wave is in the ocean”. Sankara prayed to the Lord through several songs. Jesus cried at the end O Lord, why did you leave Me?” Shirdi Sai always spoke that the Lord is His master (Allah Malik). Sri Satya Sai mentions the word Sai only whenever He gives statements like “No power can oppose Him (Sai). Sri Ganapathi Satchidananda uses the word Swamiji when He states that He is not touched by these worldly aspects. All this proves that the human incarnation should also be careful about the egoism of the human body.

Therefore, whatever analysis is given by Datta Swami regarding Datta Swami applies to all the human incarnations in the world in toto. Don’t think that the above analysis is limited only to the case of Datta Swami. It is in general about the human incarnation.

However, the devotee should serve the human body of the Lord with a faith that the human body itself is the Lord. Otherwise the concept of two separate items will not serve the purpose of the devotee. The devotee is assured of direct vision, direct conversation etc., with the Lord through the human body. Therefore, to such first angle devotees, the human body is the Lord, which is possible by His super power. The examples of sugar solution and current-wire cannot explain the concept of the Lord completely. There is no example in this creation, which can give (illustrate) the concept of the Lord completely.

The Lord and human body exist separately but close, for the people of second angle. The Lord and the human body exist separately and far from each other for the people of third angle. He exists according to the angle of the devotee. In fact dualism was shown by Krishna etc., from the point of a special concept. Whenever, a devotee or servant aspires to become human incarnation, the Lord fulfils it. Parasurama, a devotee, aspired for this and the Lord entered into his body, but when the Lord left, Parasurama continued to feel that he was the Lord. The Lord had to preach to him in the form of His next incarnation, Rama. Similarly, Balarama (Adisesha) also became a human incarnation. Adisesha is the L:ord’s closest servant. The power of the Lord entered into the servant and he was placed in the list of ten incarnations of the Lord. But Balarama misused that power by killing Bhurisravasa, a pot maker, who was presiding over a sacrifice.

Thus when a devotee or servant (Jeeva) becomes a human incarnation, there is a danger of posterior egoistic effect or misuse of granted powers. To warn His devotee or servant from such dangers, the Lord maintained dualism in His original incarnations like Krishna etc.,
You may ask a question “Why is the Lord so rigid in not transforming the individual soul (Jeeva) into the Lord Himself?” Jeeva (Y) is a part of the creation and the Lord is the Creator (X). Y can never be transformed into X. If Y is transformed into X, then the original X plus the new X obtained by transformation becomes larger. This would mean that the Lord grows whenever a soul is transformed. But the Lord never grows nor decreases.

Therefore, the only way left is to destroy the soul and make it nothing. If that is done, it is the greatest loss to the soul. Moreover when the soul does not exist, how can it recognize that it has become the Lord? If the soul remains to grasp this result, the soul is not transformed into the Lord. Therefore, you should understand the logical implication and you should not be rigid to become the Lord. Radha never wanted to become the Lord. She wanted to remain separately and enjoy in the Lord. That soul is given higher position (Goloka) and was kept on the head of the Lord. When you are attain a higher position, why should you insist on an equal position?
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 4:39 pm    Post subject:  

Sorry you mis understood.

Who is Sri Datta's Guru, not who is Sri Datta but who is his Guru- Spiritual master?
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:54 pm    Post subject:  

JK Hauraki wrote: Sorry you mis understood.

Who is Sri Datta's Guru, not who is Sri Datta but who is his Guru- Spiritual master?

Lord comes in human form He enters the human body of thehuman incarnation. Thus Lord is the Guru of Sri Datta Swami.



Today I asked Datta (God) “Why you entered me for this work? I am full of bad qualities. There are several sages who are embodiments of good qualities. You enter them”. Datta replied, “It is true that you are a bad fellow but you have one good quality before which all your bad qualities can be neglected. Those sages have all good qualities but they have one bad quality before which all their good qualities are neglected”. I asked Datta very anxiously “What is that greatest good quality and what is that strongest bad quality?”. Datta replied “The greatest good quality present in you is sacrifice. You always spend your energy and time to uplift others. You never utter my name even once for your upliftment. Those sages put efforts mostly to uplift themselves and so their strongest bad quality is selfishness. You are a hut emitting sweet fragrance. They are marble castles emitting bad odor. I prefer to enter the hut emitting sweet fragrance and not the castle which emits bad odor”.

Oh Devotees! All of you are marble castles with all good qualities. You are emitting bad odor of selfishness. If you remove that selfishness and develop sacrifice, you will be the marble palaces with sweet fragrance. Then Datta will run to enter you.

You have climbed the first step. Now you try to help the people standing on the ground to climb the first step. God will take you to second step like the mother cat catches its child by mouth and carries the child. You should not try to climb the second step. If you do so you will certainly slip.

If you say that you will first climb all the steps and then come down to help others, it cannot be believed. If you have climbed all the steps by your effort, that proves your infinite selfishness. Jealousy is directly proportional to selfishness. So your infinite jealousy makes you not to help anybody at any time. Therefore you cannot be believed and God will not help you to climb all the steps. Today you got hundred rupees. You sacrifice ten rupees. Tomorrow God will give you thousand. Then sacrifice hundred rupees. Then God will give you 1 lakh rupees and you sacrifice 1000 rupees. Don’t ask God for one lakh rupees directly in the first step stating that you will contribute Rs.1000/- God will not agree because you cannot be believed. Similarly, as you gain knowledge and devotion from God at every level go on donating the knowledge and devotion to the ignorant people. Then God will give you full knowledge and full devotion in course of time. Sacrifice must co-exist with enjoyment at every level. If you spend all your time, energy and money in the propagation work of God, God is pleased fully with you. In that stage you need not do any worship to God.

Sankaracharya spent all his time and energy to propagate knowledge. Meera spent all her time and energy to propagate devotion. For both, Datta gave salvation along with their bodies. The very word Datta means sacrifice. If you do such complete sacrifice for uplifting others in the World, you are the real incarnation of Datta. This is the essence of Datta. Without the essence one cannot become Datta by external appearance and dress. A person having the strength of a lion is called as a real lion. The person who is dressed as lion cannot be the real lion. The Sadhana (effort) must be to achieve the essence of Datta and not the appearance of Datta.

SWAMI

In this discourse Swami told that He is a person with bad qualities. This is only to say that God blesses even a bad person with sacrifice and condemns a good person with selfishness. Generally Swami speaks in a reverse way about himself and this should not be mistaken.
At the Lotus Feet of His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

Anil Antony

www.universal-spirituality.org
Universal Spirituality for World Peace
antonyanil@universal-spirituality.org
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject:  

Yes Lord Krishna is the Original Spiritual master. Only through sampradaya/ parampara can you become guru otherwise He is bogus guru.

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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 1:33 am    Post subject: Who is Guru of Shri Datta Swami?  

JK Hauraki wrote: Yes Lord Krishna is the Original Spiritual master. Only through sampradaya/ parampara can you become guru otherwise He is bogus guru.

:D

Who is Guru of Shri Datta Swami?

The word Datta Swami indicates the inner invisible form of the Lord and in such case He is the Guru of all the Gurus. If this word touches the external human form then the whole world is My Guru because any part of the world is a wonderful spiritual model revealing the divine knowledge.
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject:  

No that means He wants to be the Lord. And a typical line for bogus guru. And is not accepted by Vasinavas in disciplic succession
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Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 1:21 am    Post subject:  

JK Hauraki wrote: No that means He wants to be the Lord. And a typical line for bogus guru. And is not accepted by Vasinavas in disciplic succession
Thanks


Dear K Hauraki;

Some people desire to become Guru (Preacher) when they fail in every business. They want to succeed in the spiritual business. Some other people have the itch to become the Guru to get the disciples around them. But, for preaching and to become a real Guru in this world there are three requirements.

1) You should discover a better truth in the scriptures.
2) Due to lack of knowledge of your discovery, people must be suffering already.
3) People should get benefit on knowing your discovery.

If these three points are satisfied preaching is meaningful and such a preacher is useful Guru (Satguru). If you can say, “here is a new method to get rid of the headache without a tablet,” you can be a Satguru and your discovery needs propagation. Such real preachers are Sankara, Ramanuja, Madhva, Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Mahavir, Vivekananda, Saibaba etc.

The second type of Guru is useless Guru who preaches, “Headache disappears if you take the medicine”. Everyone knows this. He preaches whatever is already present in books. He is wasting his time and energy. He is only a teacher but not a preacher.

The third type of Guru is harmful Guru who preaches, “If you swallow the poison headache will disappear”. He harms the people. He does not know even the bookish knowledge. He spreads his ignorance.

God will punish a harmful Guru. God does not punish a useless Guru, but he is wasting his time and energy just to satisfy his itch to become the Guru. Instead of wasting his lifetime like this, let him join the service to propagate the knowledge of the Lord, who came in human form (Satguru). But, jealousy and egoism hinder him to do so. He wants to become Sankaracharya and get his fame. He does not want to become a disciple of Sankaracharya who is a human being like him. He did not discover any theory like Sankaracharya but he wants to get the fame of Sankaracharya. His egoism does not allow him to become the disciple of Sankaracharya. He is very jealous at the fame of Sankaracharya. He wears the dress of Sankaracharya, and shaves his head similarly. He teaches the same theory of Sankaracharya. Then he is only a disciple of Sankaracharya but not the original Sankaracharya.

No one is greater than Hanuman in any aspect like knowledge, devotion, power, etc.. Such Hanuman participated in the service of the Lord in human form. He did not start his own new work to uplift the world by killing some other demon and did not want to become a hero like Rama. The reason is, he does not have even a trace of jealousy and egoism. So he recognized the Lord in human form and became His servant to participate in His work. Rama became Vishnu. Hanuman became the future Brahma. Vishnu is Brahma as Veda says ‘Brahmacha Narayanah’. This means Hanuman got the same position of Rama. So if you participate in the service of the Satguru you will get the same position of Satguru.

So never be a harmful Guru. Don’t waste time and energy by becoming a useless Guru. Participate in the service of the useful Guru (Satguru) as a disciple and get the same position of that Satguru. Let every Guru and everyone who has the itch to become Guru think about my advice and do self-examination sitting alone with peaceful mind.

THEN YOU WILL UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH.
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