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sridatta1 · Joined: 03 Aug 2005 Posts: 652 Location: india

God is not pervading all over the universe

Just like the human incarnation is God (because of all over pervasion of God throughout the human being), can we also call this entire universe as God assuming that God pervaded all over the universe? In support of such all over pervasion, quotations like Sarvam khalu idam Brahma, Vishwam Vishnuh, etc can be referred here. But such concept is not acceptable because if God pervades all over the universe, the universe is not existing separately from God to become the object of entertainment like the cinema. If you pervade all over the cinema, there is no difference between seer (drashta) and the seen (drishyam). Then how to interpret the above quotations, since the whole world is under the control of God? The whole world can be called as God in a special way.

The statement that a kingdom is Kalinga (kalingoyamdeshah) can be explained like this: Kalinga is the name of the king but the kingdom is called as Kalinga because the king everywhere controls the kingdom. Ramanuja has given this interpretation. Once the address of the unimaginable God is obtained, it hardly matters whether God is in the human incarnation or in the world. Since the human incarnation is in the world, you can say that God is in the world also. However, the human incarnation is God but the universe cannot be so, due to the above-mentioned objection. The present context is about the inference of the existence of unimaginable God as the ultimate cause of this whole universe and whether the address of God is direct as in the case of human incarnation or indirect as in the case of universe, it makes no difference. The advantage of the direct address over the indirect address is that the human incarnation (direct address) establishes the unimaginable nature of God through miracles. If you are already convinced with the unimaginable nature of God through the miracles seen elsewhere, the indirect address is sufficient. In the human incarnation only, God can receive your service directly, but this is a different context.